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Is my rifle "Good Enough?"

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by surf, Feb 19, 2011.


  1. phonejack

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    About 10-12 years ago a gun writer named Jacob Gottfriedson wrote an article for "Tactical Shooter" entitled "What it's Good For? ". And I realized that I had numerous rifles that were only good for shooting at black bullseyes on white backgrounds on known distance ranges. I sold all of them. (Shooting on a manicured range does not make one a rifleman) just sayin'
     

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  2. rootbrain

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    My .02 as a new site user and new to AR's.

    Not new to guns, I own XD 9mm for CC, Marlin 336 30-30 for deer and Rem 870 primarily for HD, but use it for bird hunting as well.

    I've been thinking about getting AR-15 since 2004 when the ban ended, but just kept putting it off. Finally made the decision and got one. My choice, Colt 6920 was made for several reasons, and after extensive "lurking" on different gun forums, including this one. Will list my reasons at the end, FWIW.

    I tried as best I could to avoid manufacturer specific sites (i.e. Bushmasterowners.com, coltARusersforums.org, DPMSisTHEbestARintheWorld.net :embarassed:) because of the inherent prejudice towards a certain AR. Instead, I use sites like Glock Talk. Why? Well, because you, and they are focused on other manufacturers and platforms, but have a good user base and forums specific to the platform of interest to me (AR-15), I was able to get information based on actual user experience, with less prejudice towards a certain manufacturer.

    Because of this site, and other like it, I feel I've made the right choice for me. My reasons:

    1. I don't want to assemble parts and build my own.
    2. Doesn't matter if I could have one cheaper, I can afford what I got, the extra $100-300 I spent is a non-issue.
    3. I don't want to have to try to find pre-ban vs post-ban rifle/carbine due to possible temporary quality control issues (ref. Bushmaster carrier key staking issue, temporary and only on some).
    4. I wanted a carbine from a company that has history, not from someone that saw profit to be made a few years back and forming a "gun company" to realize that profit on a single, popular format.

    Anyway, I would like to express thanks to gurus and novices alike here (and other places) for helping me make my decision. I'm happy with it, and will continue to read, learn and try on my new platform.

    I will post, when I think that I have something that might help, but I am by no means an expert (although I did use and qualify with M16 many years ago - Regular Army!) I'm just getting back to it.

    Anything I post is more likely to be something that somebody somewhere said they heard or saw on YouTube, or tried with success, but not completely, but maybe.

    Feel free to correct, chastise, teach or inform me as you will.

    Thanks
     

  3. shadow_dog

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    Here goes, I'll put in my 2 cents worth. 53 years old, no combat experience, shooting since I was 8 years old. Taught to shoot by a WWII combat vet, my dad. I have put untold thousands of rds downrange and into things both alive and inert. Let the flaming begin.


    Tiers? I don't care about "tiers" or classifications. If I have any unresolvable issues out of a weapon, or it tends to be problematic during use, it stays in the safe for any issue that may require self defence. I have had several different weapons of all brands over my lifetime. I have had builds of what people may call "questionable" quality run better than so called upper tier weapons and vice versa. IMO, it comes down to knowing your weapon and its issues if any during/over periods of use.
     
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  4. nostalgiaguy

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    Great post. But with the cost of todays ammo , I am only training now with rifles made by daisy or crossman. LOL
     
  5. fnfalman

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    So, those Marines and Army soldiers who compete at Wimbledon, by your definitions are not "riflemen" then?

    You tactical people are just too much.:rofl:
     
  6. TedG

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    +1

    Absolutely. Don't get caught up in the if it isn't a (enter brand name here) then it isn't a real AR fanboy game. A lot of people are just trying to justify their own personal expensive purchase.
     
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  7. M&P15T

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    Has this devolved into the typical "if you're not military, you don't know what you're talking about" crapola yet?

    FWIW, ARs are toys.

    That's right.....for the majority of civilian owners, ARs are nothing but toys. We buy them because they're cool, interesting, fun, and fun to shoot.

    Trying to categorize people, and thusly define what AR they should own, is completely silly. Especially since it usually comes down to money and what one simply likes/wants.
     
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  8. kilibreaux

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    JHC!

    A "homebuilt" AR-15 generally takes only a few rounds to "proof."

    The IDEAL AR is one built from an 80% lower....there are no words that ameliorate that fact.
     
  9. OpenCarryHawaii

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    I've found that my favorite AR is the one that I'm shooting at the time. AR's are a little like Harleys, great platform to customize and a model for almost everyone. Most people think theirs is the best for them, and most agree shooting them is too much fun!
     
  10. mbruster

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    Man, if people chose their cars the same way some choose their guns....
     
  11. M&P15T

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    I do find it fascinating, how certain cars and guns have very similar owners.

    Just too over-board, too interested, too obsessed. But, each person enjoys shooting and firearms they way the want to. So, as long as they're safe....same with sports car enthusiasts....too obsessed. They freak out over normal things just like firearms owners do.

    Is my carbine good enough? The vast majority of ARs on the market today, including most of the cheap crapola, shoot accurately and reliably enough to be better than their owners can utilize.
     
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  12. sam colt

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    Glad you at least had time to post that.
     
  14. faawrenchbndr

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    Wow,....an old thread sits for a few years then is revived with drivel.
     
  15. gregking

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    Ok I read the OP, long but read it. Read the first page and most of 2nd.
    Question, where do hunters fall into this? Deer, coyotes, squirrels, pheasants and geese all fall into a different gun.
    About every quarter shoot 500 rounds through their pistols.
    One who buys guns to fit a specific purpose.
    Where do people like this fall?
     
  16. sam colt

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    Always happy to take the time to do whats necessary!:upeyes:
     
  17. Shadyscott69

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    Interesting you say that. I typically think of the BRF on GT as a continuing cartoon.
     
  18. M&P15T

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    It's gotten less pretentious since the OP left.

    I think there is a strong reversal away from the "Combat Tactical Assault Delta" attitude going on. This place was infested with wanabes that took it all waaaay too seriously, and I think the tide may be turning away from that non-sense.

    The OP was one of a handful of people that felt they had to be an AR guru, he just had to educate the rest of us un-washed heathen masses.:rofl::rofl:

    When this thread is no longer a sticky, we'll know real progress is being made.
     
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  19. OldSchool64

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    Sticking with the question that the OP introduced:

    I've decided to spend the extra money, time and effort to make my first build the 'beginnings' of what I see as satisfactory for my needs, my tastes and how I'd like it to perform.

    We all have our own criteria. Some of us even have a budget to deal with.
     
  20. Batesmotel

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    I just know what I could do with a beat to hell M-16A1 even without all the freaking bells and whistles guys are putting on today.

    I seriously think too many guys are looking for an equipment solution to a training problem.

    Nothing wrong in a good basic rifle if you train to a level to have faith in the weapon and yourself.
     
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