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Is it possible to obtain...?

Discussion in 'Free Fire Zone' started by skippz, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. skippz

    skippz

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    Is it possible to get an upper of less than 16 inches w/o a c.3 weapons license? I would imagine NO...
    But if you were to get an upper "stamped" pistol on it and then installed a collapsible stock (or any stock for that matter)...
    I'm confused someone plz explain this to me.
     
  2. Dalton Wayne

    Dalton Wayne Epic mustache Millennium Member

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    The receiver is the weapon, what you are suggesting would be illegal if it's marked as a pistol barrel it can only go on a pistol receiver.
    Regards
    DW
     


  3. skippz

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    well if its illegal then why does it happen all too often??? I'm curious as to how this takes place...
     
  4. overkill375

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    because fools break the law. The uppers are not controlled parts you can buy 50 10 inch uppers if you want just dont put them on a rifle lower.
     
  5. DustyJacket

    DustyJacket Directiv 10-289

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    Yes, you can get an upper less than 16", but it i for a pistol, unless it is for an SBR.

    If you add a stock to any pistol (barrel less than 16") you create a short barrelled rifle (SBR) and need a form 1 or form 4 (depending on things) to create/transfer it legally, and the $200 tax.

    You don't need a license.

    Similarly, if you add a vertical grip to a pistol you create Any Other Weapon (AOW) and need the same forms, but only $5 tax.
     
  6. r2kba

    r2kba Relax

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    Thats the transfer fee only though. To make and AOW it's still $200.
     
  7. r2kba

    r2kba Relax

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    Uppers are not regulated. If your asking if you can buy a short upper and hand it to someone else to hold that does not have an AR15 the answer is yes. Once your forms are approved then you go get it and make your SBR.
     
  8. skippz

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    Okay so when does the < 16" barrel become illegal???
    When it is coupled w/ a rifle lower? Just owning it??? Or what?
     
  9. r2kba

    r2kba Relax

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    If you dont have an NFA registered SBR, do not buy a short upper.
     
  10. mboylan

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    It becomes illegal when you posses a lower receiver that is not registered as an SBR. Its called constructive possession and you can do real hard time for it.
     
  11. skippz

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    so even if you own an already assembled AR & order just the upper < 16", and have no intention of actually assembling the rifle its still considered illegal?
     
  12. skippz

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    Also what if you buy the upper that is less than 16" and then buy a lower stamped Pistol on it? Ya know the ones w/o the stock.
     
  13. mboylan

    mboylan

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    ..100%
     
  14. 'constructive possession' or something like that. Basically, you can make it easily so it is construed that you have made it already.