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Is it okay to shoot rifled slugs down a smooth bore with a full choke?

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by dajcarroll, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. Im sure this topic has been asked before, but I would still consider myself new to this site. I have a 12 gauge New England Firearms Pardner with a 28" barrel, 3" Full choke. I don't know anything about chokes. I was wondering if rifled slug rounds could be shot with this gun. I understand sabot slugs are a no, but what about rifled slugs? Friends of mine are hunters, and they've asked me to start coming along on trips with them now. All I have are buckshot loads. Can I shoot rifled slugs for longer distance or could that cause a problem? If not, what are my best options. 3" magnum 00 buck? Thanks for the help.


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  2. UtahIrishman

    UtahIrishman BLR Silver Member

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    I'm no expert but I'll give this a bump as it deserves, actually needs, a correct answer.

    If I were to hazard a guess I would do so on the side of caution and say no.

    Chokes are for improving shot patterns. A full choke compresses the shot pattern as it comes out of the barrel. Thus there is a small obstruction from the choke that would cause serious problems with a rifled slug.I'm assuming the choke isn't removable. If it's re-moveable you could take it off of course.

    A choice of shot I will leave to others as I don't know much about shotguns.
     


  3. Thanks for the reply. It is a fixed choke.




    G19 - Gen 3
    G37 - Gen 3
    NEF Pardner SBI 12 Ga.
    Savage Model 24 - .22LR/410
     
  4. Jim Watson

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    The plain old lead Foster slug is made to squish down going through a choke.
    It is safe in your gun.
     
  5. smokeross

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    I won't do it with my Model 12 Winchesters. No steel shot in them either.
     
  6. bigmac85

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    I suggest you look up NEF's website abd look up the owners manual for your specific model and go from there buddy. Had the same question with a mossberg and thats where I found a solid answer.

    As for buckshot check your local regs and make sure its legal to use. I believe some states are "slug only".
     
  7. Great idea. Why didn't I think of that?! Thanks. Also, Indiana is one of the most pro gun states in America. As long as you aren't a felon and are of legal age you can own a handgun. I believe you can own a shotgun at any age. Nothing less than 18" barrel... 26" overall. No more than 3 shots when shooting turkeys... No registration, open carry or concealed with a licsense, great Castle Laws in effect. Nothing on using slugs only for deer... I don't think.




    G19 - Gen 3
    G37 - Gen 3
    NEF Pardner SBI 12 Ga.
    Savage Model 24 - .22LR/410
     
  8. AK_Stick

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    You can shoot a foster style slug, through a gun with a fixed choke safely.
     
  9. This. The old Foster style slug is a loose enough fit to pass through a full choke with no problem. You might not get very good accuracy with them, but they'll work.

    As for buckshot, I've never killed a deer with anything BUT buckshot. Used within it's range limitations, it kills like lightening. If you're shooting a single shot gun, be ready for a quick reload.

    I've never cared for 00 buck. I have always found that No 1 buck patterned better, and there are a lot more shot in the shell. You're giving up a couple thousands in shot diamater, but getting it back in shot count. You should pattern your gun to see for yourself, but I have never seen a gun that shot 00 better than it did No 1. (Now for all you reading this whos guns DO shoot 00 better, don't bother to write nasty letters to tell me. I said I have never seen one, not that they don't exist.)

    I like 3" shells, but many a whitetail has hit the ground with "short magnum" loads too. Be aware. A light gun, like your NEF will kick like the proverbial mule with 3" loads.
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2012
  10. Yes you can shoot old fashioned foster slugs through a full choke. They are soft lead and the "rifled" fins are designed to deform easily.

    Having shot them in an old h+r single shot the only thing you are likely to damage is your shoulder.

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  11. Z71bill

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    Straight from the box of Remington Slugger 1oz rifled slugs.

    "Rifled slugs may be fired through any choke; however, improved cylinder provides best results."


    IMHO -

    You can shoot rifled slugs from a full, modified, improved cylinder or open bore - I would NOT shoot them out of a gun with an extra full or turkey choke.

    If you only plan to shoot a few (10-20) rounds of slugs I would not worry about using a full choke - it is not going to blow up your gun or anything -

    But it will cause a little extra wear on the choke - so if I was planning on shooting hundreds of rounds I would buy a barrel with a more open choke.

    If you are really worried about it - pick up some 000 buckshot.

    EDIT: BTW - I am reading between the lines a little -

    - but it seems you may not know that "rifled" slugs are designed specifically to be used in a smooth (non-rifled) barrel. It is a little confusing - the "rifling" on the slug gets it to spin a little when shot through a smooth barrel - improving accuracy.
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2012
  12. I saw some 000 buck at my local LGS. Don't know much about them... do they travel farther than 00?




    G19 - Gen 3
    G37 - Gen 3
    NEF Pardner SBI 12 Ga.
    Savage Model 24 - .22LR/410
     
  13. Z71bill

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    I doubt 000 travel any farther VS 00

    000 throws 8 -- .36 diameter shot - 00 is 9 -- .33

    In reality maybe not that much difference.
     
  14. 4 glocks

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    #1, OO, Or OOO will not make much difference. The larger the size of shot will have less shot in each shell.
    Shooting slugs out of a full choke will kick more.
    If your deer hunting I think Buckshot will be your best choice at 60 to 75 yards.
     
  15. I am aware rifled slugs are for smooth barrels, my question was about the choke. I didn't know much about them.



    G19 - Gen 3
    G37 - Gen 3
    NEF Pardner SBI 12 Ga.
    Savage Model 24 - .22LR/410
     
  16. countrygun

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    When in doubt read the ammo box. If there wa a dangerous situation created there would be warnings all over the box, and given that a lot of people don't read, ammo makers are pretty sure you can't hurt yourself or your gun with their ammo.

    It is a logical question however at first glance, but the slugs are soft enough to swage down. BTW If the seem to fit loose in the bore, bear in mind they are hollow based and "bump up" to bore diameter when fired.
     
  17. whitebread

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    qft!!