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Is he bleepin stupid?!?!?!?

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Dennis in MA, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    Well, I watched this much of that guy (and could take no more) - "I have started a lot of companies that hired a lot of people" - so he's talking about the rich, not the middle class, there. So why does he say the middle class are the "real job creators"? - because they buy products that make those companies profitable. Do you really need somebody to explain what's wrong with that? Seriously, just think about it. Who are the middle class with the money to sustain these companies started by the rich?

    They're the &^%$#@F)(*&^% employees of those companies started by the rich, who have money to spend!!

    In other words, that guy may be an idiot but, if not, he is intentionally lying to you to promote an agenda (or for profit).
     
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  2. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    You really didn't see the internal logic flaw in that guy's claim?:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

    So think about it a minute - he argues that those people employed by the rich entrepreneurs are only employed because the middle class have the money to buy the products. Duh. We knew that, but his idea only makes sense if you stop without asking where the middle class got the money to buy the products that keep the businesses working to employee the people who work for a living...including the middle class who then have money to buy products from...never mid, if you need to be lead through that, you are either refusing to try to understand or you aren't able.
     

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  3. whoflungdo

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    Exactly and as disposable income goes down, jobs are lost creating less disposable income.

    I would like to ask the people who believe this guy's "logic" where the capital come from for businesses to be started or for them to borrow money to expand or to help make it through the rough times?
     
  4. czsmithGT

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    The Neocons are about as authoritarian as anyone could stand. Bush after 9/11 became increasingly authoritarian as he implemented more "Homeland Security" measures.
     
  5. czsmithGT

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    Gary Johnson is not an anarchist. Libertarians believe in free markets, private property, and capitalism.
     
  6. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    Neocons are progressives


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  7. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    We believe in more than that.

    Keep moving GJ to the right and you have no government.




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  8. czsmithGT

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    Authoritarian progressives.

    Neocons and Obamanistas are just two sides of the same big-government anti-individual rights coin.
     
  9. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    Yessir

    See any marijuana thread or anything by JBnTX


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  10. juggy4711

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    I wonder how many here think that anarchy is just a synonym for chaos and disorder, or that communism and socialism are forms of government?
     
  11. greentriple

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    Oh, so libertarians want no government? Quasi-Anarchists.


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  12. greentriple

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    Great questions.


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  13. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    You're an attorney IIRC. That requires a lot of reading. I would have expected you to be better at it.
     
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  15. Skyhook

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    Any leader who appeals to the most base and craven qualities of his 'kingdom', greed & envy would have been thrown out of office by a moral society.
     
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  16. greentriple

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    It's impossible to reason with ideologues. Your expectations are unimportant, happy to disappoint. But reading you posts throughout GT I'm baffled by the lack of self awareness yet readiness to criticize others.


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  17. greentriple

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    Clearly the methodology of the right: foster fear, classism and anger.


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  18. Cavalry Doc

    Cavalry Doc MAJ (USA Ret.)

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    He bases his belief that the middle americans are the job creators, basically that they are the largest consumers. But without the ability to have money to consume.

    The bottom line is that people need jobs, whether a rich dude or a guy just scraping by does it, someone has to create a job for the other guy to have so he can be middle class.

    Not all business owners are rich.

    But, the election is over, boehner is caving, taxes will likely go up for almost every worker to help pay for the non-working, and the federal government will still spend an extra 40+ cents for every dollar they take in.
     
  19. Cavalry Doc

    Cavalry Doc MAJ (USA Ret.)

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    I know what you mean. Where are the guys on the right again?











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  20. certifiedfunds

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    So as a leftist ideologue you know yourself well and realize you can't be reasoned with. Congratulations.

    Yet you read my post and completely misunderstood it. I would think an attorney would have better skills.

    So to clarify: Yes, libertarians want no government. However, we realize some government is necessary to protect people, their property and their rights from others so that they may go about pursuing happiness.