I've been reading all the posts around the Obama and McCain and began to wonder...
Is there anyone in this forum that is still undecided?
Is there anyone in this forum that is still undecided?
And a short while later you write that you will NOT vote for him?I am very DECIDED. I'm gladly and proudly voting for Obama. I am sick and tired of the way things have been. End of story.
As for McCain's voting record on gun control, it appears to be overwhelmingly in favor of more gun rights:if 30% of the population voted 3rd party(assuming a vast majority of them voted for a specific party) we would not have a repulicrat president.
I am going to assume d3athp3nguin believes the republicans push core values of conservatism, but I will respectfully disagree 100%. There is nothing conservative about fighting preemptive war, overspending, bloating government, repressing liberties, pushing socialism and on and on and on.
We must realize the dems and reps do not give a **** about any citizen in this country, at least not you and me or anyone not worth hundreds of millions.
100 trillion in current and promised debt
500-1000 Military bases throughout the world
The Fed ran by private banksters that inflate and steal saver's money through inflation(tax)
Those are the core issues of this country and none are ever mentioned by the two party system. The citizens are getting the government they deserve.
Mccain is NOT pro gun.
Poor guy, still smoking the Republican fixed peyote. :rofl: Barack isnt a Muslim, and never has been. :upeyes:I wil not vote for a Muslim ...
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People do not hate us because of our morals, they hate us because we occupy their lands and strongarm their natural resources from them. Start with the CIA and what it has done in South America, then move to the Middle East. If you still think we can stomp all over the world and there won't be consequences, I can't help you.
First of all, I apologize if this is a personal attack on you, meshmdz; your political views aren't terribly popular here, true, but they are yours, and as a human being with free choice and an American citizen with the right to express such, you can't be faulted for doing so.well stated johnmeredith.
:rofl::rofl: So let me get this straight.... Because I will follow the orders given to me by my commanders and have my own political beliefs that are backed by FACT I am not qualified to be a military officer? Give me a break. I support the US and our military and even though some practices by our gov. or military I might not agree with does NOT mean that I will not do as I am ordered. You are a complete fool if you think that i am not qualified to be an officer in the Army based on my dissent for certain things our gov. has done in the past. Just because someone doesnt agree with their nation's foreign policy on all fronts doesnt mean they are qualified to lead soldiers.First of all, I apologize if this is a personal attack on you, meshmdz; your political views aren't terribly popular here, true, but they are yours, and as a human being with free choice and an American citizen with the right to express such, you can't be faulted for doing so.
Based on the above, and your reactions on another thread, I question whether you are morally qualified to be a commissioned officer in our Nation's military. Why would you choose a career in the armed services if you agree with the views above? You know very well that you might be ordered to take part in missions which involve 'stomping all over the world,' as JohnMeredith puts it, yet by your own admission in the thread I mentioned, you will obey ANY order you're given, regardless of your own convictions--up to and including disarming your fellow citizens at gunpoint.
It would be hypocritical enough to join the military in any capacity, but you're training to be a leader of men, whose lives could depend on your judgment and discretion. Say you give an order, and your PSG or (if you're a company commander) your 1SG, who are soldiers who will be likely much older and more experienced than you, tell you their consciences will not permit them to carry out your order--they believe them to be unlawful as well as immoral--what then? You'll be expected, naturally, to be an example of both integrity and good judgment as well as an authority figure.
So...why the decision to be a military officer? And if it's not too prying, which branch and MOS were you applying for? Maybe people here who have served in your chosen field can provide you with more input.
Ho-kay, back on topic...
Hm. I have to admit I've been more convinced by some of McCain's recent interviews and talking points. If he'd only tighten up his stance on illegal aliens I'd feel more reassured. Joe the plumber has thrown some fresh dung onto the fire for Obama, too. :supergrin:
:rofl::rofl: So let me get this straight.... Because I will follow the orders given to me by my commanders and have my own political beliefs that are backed by FACT I am not qualified to be a military officer? Give me a break. I support the US and our military and even though some practices by our gov. or military I might not agree with does NOT mean that I will not do as I am ordered. You are a complete fool if you think that i am not qualified to be an officer in the Army based on my dissent for certain things our gov. has done in the past. Just because someone doesnt agree with their nation's foreign policy on all fronts doesnt mean they are qualified to lead soldiers.
Umm, no.The reality of that statement is that your vote will benefit Obama
See above.To all those who abstain... you just voted for Obama.
So.. he reads books?Senator Obama is highly educated
I wonder how he feels about his choice now?:whistling:I am very DECIDED. I'm gladly and proudly voting for Obama. I am sick and tired of the way things have been. End of story.