close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

Is 10mm ammo hard to find at retailers for some unknown reason?

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by flw, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. flw

    flw

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Messages:
    357
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was thinking of getting a 10 mm and started to checkout the cost of rounds.

    In my area, Gander Mnt, and a few local shops do not carry any 10 mm rounds. I'm very disappointed because without a local source for ammo, a change in the law could keep ammo out of my hands if I need to have them delivered to me because of that lack of retail stores that carry it.

    I was thinking of getting the most powerful Glock but ammo availability at the retail level could stop me. I know its expensive to shoot but it would not be my main range gun.


    BTW- I'm around the northern Il area if that helps.
     
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2012
  2. LASTRESORT20

    LASTRESORT20 LongTerm-Guy

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2010
    Messages:
    19,396
    Likes Received:
    27,818
    Location:
    NC
    I havnt had a Problem in my area......but I will check some gun-shops this weekend.



    Re-loading is good thing also.
     

  3. TKM

    TKM Shiny Member Lifetime Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2000
    Messages:
    1,649
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    Just another ball of mud.
  4. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    Messages:
    8,189
    Likes Received:
    1,766
    Location:
    USA
    They might a box or two of some watered down FMJ. I dont see any premium SD ammo on the shelves anywhere.

    10mm is one caliber that is best suited to online purchases. Both to get a better deal and get ammo that is loaded to its true potential.
     
  5. SDGlock23

    SDGlock23 Glockoholic

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2005
    Messages:
    6,641
    Likes Received:
    244
    Location:
    Under the dome on the flat earth
    The selection of ammo locally is always pretty slim because it's not a popular cartridge, now before anyone argues about that, it's evident that it's still around and somewhat alive, it's nowhere near as popular as 9, 40, 45, 357 Mag, 44 mag, etc.

    Locally, well about 50 miles from here there is a Sportsmans Warehouse and they do stock some 10mm, even some Buffalo Bore 10mm, which is full power. Unfortunately BB decided to start using some less than awesome JHP's so that's a bummer. At this place they also offer the regular 10mm stuff, but it's very expensive and watered down, but lets face it, most all ammo from the major ammo companies is watered down no matter the cartridge, so it's not 10mm specific.

    You're better off ordering online and/or get into handloading. And if you're not going to shoot it much, there's a good chance you'll get rid of it down the road because of the expense. Or you can keep it, buy a .40 conversion barrel for it to get more out of it. I reload almost everything and I still got rid of my 10mm.
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2012
  6. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2001
    Messages:
    23,157
    Likes Received:
    7,563
    watered down stuff at local gun shops and academy sports.
     
  7. fastbolt

    fastbolt

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Messages:
    12,643
    Likes Received:
    3,838
    Location:
    CA Central Coast
    It's not hard to find at stocking retailers for some "unknown reason". The reason is known.

    It's not stocked, or sometimes stocked in minimal quantities & selection, because it's not selling and making them revenue.

    While more firearms manufacturers are making handguns chambered in 10mm (or 10mm Norma, if you'd rather) than ever before, it's still a niche cartridge, with the "niche" being folks who are handloading enthusiasts and/or handgun hunters.

    The major ammunition makers haven't invested as much attention into the cartridge as aficionados of the 10mm might prefer, but this helped create just enough demand for some smaller custom ammunition makers to sell some 10mm loads.

    Another potential issue regarding the lackluster sales of commercial 10mm from the major makers is that owners/shooters of the 10mm guns nowadays seem unimpressed with the limited offerings that were originally developed, and want something "hotter", ,using lighter bullet weights created for the .40 S&W.

    Now, I remember liking the original 10mm Norma, myself. I thought it was a nice idea for a service-type cartridge that eclipsed the .45 ACP and edged close to the ballistic performance of the heavier .357 Magnum loads of the day. (I'd used .41 Magnum revolvers back then, so I never really considered the 10mm to be equivalent to a .41 Magnum, myself.)

    I handled and fired one of the first G20's imported back in the late summer of '90, using Norma ammunition, and thought it was a nice combination ... but I just wasn't interested enough to buy one.
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2012
  8. fredj338

    fredj338

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2004
    Messages:
    23,178
    Likes Received:
    1,810
    Location:
    so.cal.
    The 10mm is a niche/cult cartridge, & most owners roll their own. So the LGS isn't likely to stock a lot of ammo choices. If you want a 10mm, reloading is the way to go for cost as well as performance. Like teh 41mag, a good round hampered by few guns & few factory ammo choices. I bought 2-3 boxes of original Norma back in the day & then handloaded it ever since.
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2012
  9. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    Messages:
    18,628
    Likes Received:
    753
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    The only thing around here are the watered-down 10mm loadings. :upeyes:
     
  10. Yankee2718

    Yankee2718

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2010
    Messages:
    584
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    America
    If you will be limited to local sales only you're wasting your time with the 10mm. No reason to spend extra money on a .40 S&W with a long case. Most 40 180 gr loads make 1000 fps from the factory. Most factory 10mm 180 gr loads only make 50-100 fps more. The 10mm reaches its full potential when loaded to its max. Factory loads from the big 3 hardly ever make it.
     
  11. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    Messages:
    18,628
    Likes Received:
    753
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    I guess that if you want full-powered 10 mm, one has to buy it on-line. :upeyes:
     
  12. alwaysshootin

    alwaysshootin

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    3,749
    Likes Received:
    2
  13. davsco

    davsco

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    582
    Likes Received:
    52
    retail is all about shelf space and inventory turns. Low volume low margin stuff doesn't get shelf space.
     
  14. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    Messages:
    18,628
    Likes Received:
    753
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    has a good selection of 10mm ammunition?
     
  15. bac1023

    bac1023

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2004
    Messages:
    105,732
    Likes Received:
    4,651
    Location:
    PA
    You can find the weak stuff around.
     
  16. Chuck TX

    Chuck TX CLM

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2003
    Messages:
    6,241
    Likes Received:
    451
    Location:
    Republic of Texas
    You can find it, but if you want the real stuff you have to order it or roll your own.
     
  17. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    Messages:
    18,628
    Likes Received:
    753
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    I used to reload 10mm. It is easy. :cool:
     
  18. fastbolt

    fastbolt

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Messages:
    12,643
    Likes Received:
    3,838
    Location:
    CA Central Coast
    If I were going to run a 10mm pistol as a dedicated defensive handgun (not a hunting handgun), I'd invest in the Winchester 175gr STHP and work on skills maintenance. Training/practice ammo would become a bit pricey, though.

    The original Norma 170gr JHP was listed at somewhere around 1358fps, I believe, and the Winchester 175gr load is listed at 1290fps, putting it in the ballpark with the original load (for bullet weight).

    I remember when a friend of mine was a weapons officer for the CHP here in CA. He once told me that in the field offices where he'd worked where the officers were permitted to carry 10mm for off-duty, the load kept in inventory at those offices was the Winchester 175gr STHP (since they issued off-duty ammunition).

    I'd like to see Speer and Federal offer something equivalent, with a couple choices in the 170-175gr & 200gr weight range. Since the real money is in LE/Gov sales, though, and the 10mm's limited LE use is mostly history, I doubt the big names are ever going to be interested in putting their attention on the 10mm (except for some practice and hunting loads).

    It's handloaders and component sales that seem to be driving the continued interest in the 10mm, although the smaller specialty ammunition companies seem to be benefiting from this market, too.

    It's just that if I were going to be using a 10mm as a dedicated defensive weapon, I'd much prefer to run ammunition offered by one of the big names in American ammunition. Limited availability (locally), and pricing for "specialty" or hot-rodded ammunition are enough to keep me from indulging in my interest in the 10mm.

    I haven't been a handloader for many years, as well.
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2012
  19. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    Messages:
    18,628
    Likes Received:
    753
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    That 175gr 10mm load sounds very mean. :cool:
     
  20. 4949shooter

    4949shooter

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    Messages:
    9,925
    Likes Received:
    521
    Location:
    New Jersey Republik
    Do you have a Cabelas within driving distance? They stock the Winchester Silvertip, Hornady 155 and 200 grain rounds as well as Critical Defense, Remington UMC, PMC 200 grain, Corbon Powerball, and last but not least, Buffalo Bore 180 and 220 grain.

    I must say, I was going to buy a 10mm Glock over ten years ago. I held off because t I thought the round might die out and ammo would be hard to come by. I was wrong. I know your situation is different, but if you don't acquire a 10mm now you may regret it.

    Good luck!
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2012