I have seen some banner ads on here for Versacarry, but haven't seen a snubby holster in their line-up. I did some looking around and found these guys: https://www.rdrholsters.com/store/display/2226/133/micro-carry-smith-wesson http://www.doubletapholsters.com/page/products#!/~/product/category=2538237&id=11101125 http://shop.zeroconcealmentsystems.com/Bare-Bones-Series-Bare-Bones-Series.htm It is an interesting concept, and being that I have used a ClipDraw, I am not adverse to trying this out. Does anyone have any experience with any of these makers? Lets refrain from the "pistol pointed at my junk" comments. Either you are on board with this type or not, either is cool..just wanna stay on subject.