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Information for new/looking at HK's owners

Discussion in 'Heckler & Koch Forum' started by Furyataurus, Aug 12, 2010.

  1. Furyataurus

    Furyataurus

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    Let's get the "variants" out of the way first.

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    This goes for USP/C handguns with and without LEM as well as the HK45/C

    The P30 Trigger Variants:

    P30 (V0):
Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the spurred hammer. Centrally located de-cocking button, with a constant enhanced double action only Law Enforcement Modification (LEM)* trigger pull of approximately 4.5 pounds (20 Newtons) without operation of the de-cocking latch, and defined let-off point.

    P30 V1:
Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the spurrless hammer, without de-cocking button. Constant LEM trigger pull of approximately 4.5 pounds (20 Newtons) and defined let-off point.


    P30 V2:
Like P30 V1 but with LEM trigger pull of approximately 7.3 pounds (32.5N).


    P30 V3:
Conventional single action/double action (SA/DA) trigger without cocking piece in the hammer with spur and centrally located decocking button.


    P30 V4:
Like P30 V1, however LEM trigger pull approximately 6.2 pounds (27.5N).


    P30 V6:
Conventional double action only (DAO) trigger without cocking piece in the spurrless hammer. Constant DAO trigger pull of approximately 8.8 pounds (39N).


    Don't for get to add the safety lever for the S models.

    The P2000 Trigger Variants:

    P2000 V1:
 Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the hammer, with a constant trigger pull (Combat Defense Action/LEM trigger of 20 Newtons) from the first shot to the last, without decocking.


    P2000 V2:
 Like P2000 V1, however LEM/CDA trigger pull 7.3 pounds (32.5 Newtons).


    P2000 V3: 
Conventional DA/SA trigger and hammer, with decocking.


    P2000 V4:
 Like P2000 V1, however CDA/LEM trigger pull 6.18 pounds (27.5 Newtons).


    P2000 V5: 
Double Action only (DAO), trigger pull approximately 7.87 pounds (35 Newtons).


    Best accessory for an HK???

    Magazines.

    Yeah, I know they are expensive but you knew what you were getting yourself into. :supergrin:

    Best night sights?

    Trijicon of course.:supergrin:

    Miscellaneous:

    9mm/40/357sig magazines all have the same follower so if you have a 9mm USP and buy a 40 mag by mistake the mag will still hold 15 rounds of 9mm. Of course the hole counters in the mag won't line up right. The same works the other way. If you have a 40 cal USP and get 9mm mags you will still only be able to put 13 rounds of 40 in it.

    But, I have been able to fit 15 rounds of 9mm in a 40 cal USPC magazine for all you 9mm USPC/P2000/SK owners out there as opposed to only 13 rounds in a standard 9mm USPC magazine.

    USPC/P2000/SK mags are interchangeable except for 45's of course.

    Best rail adapter for USP/C is GG&G's

    Best light is Streamlight TLR-1 or Insight Tech's M2 for those who don't want a rail adapter.

    Trigger

    HK's are designed to be "duty"/"combat" handguns. If you want a "crisp" light trigger then get a high end 1911. If you can't pick up ANY handgun and fire it effectively for the first DA pull then you need more training/practice.

    Please remember to use "quality" ammo when shooting HK's.

    Stovepipes are not jams!!!!

    Use your trigger finger or middle finger to release the magazine.

    Almost forgot:

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    HK's use the dead on/cover up hold.
     
  2. JBnTX

    JBnTX Bible Thumper

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    Everything one needs to know about the finest pistols on Earth.
     


  3. Glocknut101

    Glocknut101 skeptic

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    In your head
    The dead on hold.. is that lining up the center of the front sight dot with the dot on the target/head/chest?
     
  4. Swamprattler

    Swamprattler

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    Under P30 variants - P30 V3; what do you mean "trigger without cocking piece in the hammer with spur "?
     
  5. H&K 4 LIFE

    H&K 4 LIFE Leonum A Ignis

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    Yes. It means covering the intended target with the dot on the front sight. All HK pistols are factory zeroed using this sight picture at 25m.
     
  6. Glocknut101

    Glocknut101 skeptic

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    In your head
    Thanks, just making sure. Pretty much the same as a Glock? What I'm used to shooting till I got my .40 USPc.
     
  7. P30

    P30

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    Not where I want.
    I use the 6:00 hold (it's what I was taught) with my P30 at 25 meters, but I still tend to shoot a bit high.
     
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2010
  8. mrt949

    mrt949

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    Great reply NOW what is comparable to a SW M&P .Is what I have at the present time FL & COMPACT IN 40 SW. I like the trigger in this pistol .But looking to buy a HK in the future.:supergrin:
     
  9. azndragon684

    azndragon684

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    thanks, learned alot this is my second H&K just got an USPc .40 :)
     
  10. kilroy2721

    kilroy2721

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    I have a USP 45 full size and I just changed both of my sights. I got Novak sights, a fiber front and plain black rear. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but hope that it is at the center mass hold.
     
  11. azndragon684

    azndragon684

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    is there a way to see what kind of night site i have on my HK USPc .40? all it says is "TRU DOT" but i seen many with the same..
     
  12. H&K 4 LIFE

    H&K 4 LIFE Leonum A Ignis

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    HK factory night sights are Meprolight "Tru-Dot". :)
     
  13. barth

    barth six barrels

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    I've got a HK P30 40 LEM V1 Light.
    It's replaced my beloved Glock G27-357 as my EDC.

    Highly recommend you check out the P30s.
    Specifically in LEM configuration.
    These guns are game changers.
     
  14. dpadams6

    dpadams6

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    I shot sig sauer for 20 years. Recently tried and bought a hk p30 v3 40. I'm in love. I feel sorry for my sigs as they sit very lonely. The p30 is amazing.