Tested a few hollow points in 18" of wet newspaper using #7. 165gr rangert I pulled from 40cal bullet expanded to .830 140gr barnes tac-xp expanded to .780 165gr GS to .700 at the pedals(bullet just starting to lose jacket) 165gr GD went the distance but stopped at the bottom. .640 155gr xtp which was loaded a little warmer was .720 and held together in good shape. Wanna kill these ads? We can help!