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Informal Ballistic Experiments

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by Eye Cutter, Sep 18, 2004.

  1. Eye Cutter

    Eye Cutter Moderator

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    Here are pictures of recovered slugs from our informal ballistic testing using 5 wet PLDT Telephone Diretories stacked together at a distance of 7 meters yesterday at the PB Range.

    The pistols used were dogman's Para P18-9 LDA and my brother's Glock 30.

    L-R: Hornady XTP .45cal, (next 3 in middle)PBD Bullseye brand 9mm 124 JHP's, Starfire 230gr .45cal JHP

    look at the Hornady slug, it didn't mushroom. The locally loaded 9mm's expanded almost as big as the imported .45 on the right!

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    Care to share you informal ballistic testing?
     
  2. Eye Cutter

    Eye Cutter Moderator

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    The slugs were all recovered inside the 4th wet telephone directory. That's more than 12 inches of penetration which is preferred for defensive ammo. We also shot the directories with 9mm 124gr fmj's but were not able to recover any slug as it passed through the 5 stacks of directories!

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  3. 9MX

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    Doc,

    PBD Bulls Eye - how much a pc? is it compatible with the CZ 75/85 and Glock 26/19/17?
     
  4. Eye Cutter

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    oops! bad!!! forgot to ask. actually its a new offering that PB will sell. The heads are locally sourced daw. Will ask when I see Mr. Gaerlan at the range.
     
  5. 9MX

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    i wonder if those are the same jhp heads, hahn is selling. P11.00 ata per pc noon gunshow.
     
  6. julianz

    julianz toxic master

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    doc EC inumpisahan mo na din lang experiment , is it possible to test our local ammo on jeans and metals (as in lumang kotse)
    i have lurked in other talks and wondering if our ammo back there are as effective or more effective than imported ones.


    i will appreciate it very much and im sure BOG's will appreciate it just as much kung pwede lang po.
     
  7. v1ct0r

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    Hmmm try natin sa mercedes benz?


    ^2


    sorry po dko lang mapigilan... ;W


    :cool:
     
  8. vega

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    Eye cutter - good report. I also tried Hornady XTP 9mm before but they didn't expand. I bought the heads from Strong Arms.

    vega
     
  9. mbclubph

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    i bought hornady ammos for carry 9mm P65/each yan ba yung nasa red box of 25.? I also bought cheap talisman (twinpines P19.00/piece) 9mm ammo's the head parang hornady din but the price malayo test mo narin sir if you have time.. thanks

    saw sa buy and sell ads paper sept 28 issue


    HYDRASHOCK 9MM FEDERAL P1,000.00 / BOX OF 50'S
    SELLIER AND BELLOT 9MM FMJ P500.00 / BOX OF 50'S

    CELL NUMBER 0917-8863210
     
  10. horge

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    Doc,

    Nice! Thanks for sharing.
    Your experience with the XTP's mirrors that of other testers, and poor or rather non-expansion of XTP's runs across the board, caliber-wise.

    I wish I had gotten around to water testing cartridges for terminal performance, pero even if I had, puro .380 ACP naman ang mga yun.
    Again, thanks.


    .
     
  11. batangueno

    batangueno Shock Resist

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    Yes, they do look like Speer Gold Dots.
     
  12. Bumili din ako nun e. Gold dot daw... ^8

    On testing, would it suffice if I use a bucketful of fine grained sand tapos babasain na parang putik ang dating? I'd like to test some JHP ammo I bought for the 9mm and 45, particularly yung Fiocchi, reloaded na Gold dot, yung local head sa Hahn at yung local Hydrashock ke True weight. Anybody tried thru this medium o sa putik?
     
  13. mikey177

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    Thanks for the informative informal tests, Doc. One question: were you using the yellow pages or the white pages?

    If I get a chance to pass by Quezon City, could I donate some S&B JHPs for you to evaluate? That's the load I'm currently using. I can also provide some old T-shirts and maong pants if you're interested in testing the performance of the ammo through garments. Thanks.
     
  14. julianz

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    sige..sige..please.. please... please..then post ..post.. post
     
  15. Maganda din yung pinapakitang video ng Hahn tuwing gunshow.

    Mga plastic na supot, pangyelo yata, nakahilera sa isang makitid na wooden frame, mga 10 bags in a row. Madali pang ma-retrieve yung slug (wag lang FMJ!) ;)
     
  16. Eye Cutter

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    mikey: sige iwan mo lang kay gerianne sa range. subukan natin. the 5 wet telephone directories (white and yellow pages) were stacked inside a plastic bag.

    let's try it with different types of garments.

    sino pa gusto mag-donate nang ammo for testing? Let's use only 1 kind of pistol as much as possible. I have 9mm federal 147 gr jhp, starfire 115 jhp and corbon 115 +P jhp I want to test.
     
  17. 9MX

    9MX Rei!

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    what is the difference if its yellow or white?;Q
     
  18. mbclubph

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    dummy bullets post naman power factor... how about 12 gauge pa chrono naman sir:) :) :) napadaan lang
     
  19. Eye Cutter

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    power factor ng dummy bullets? di ata pwede yun...

    nasira chrono namin. nalubog sa baha