Check the swage section on cast boolit forum. Brian (BT sniper) is putting thses together. It is not cheap, but comes with everything needed but the lead & 22lr jackets. While I doubt I save any money, I may never make 9K bullets, I like the idea of having what I want when I want. Especially in Kommifornia, they could ban internet sales or even reloading w/ little effort. So I would always have stuff to make ammo.