I thought myself into a corner the other day. It was inspired by a righteous post by Mac66 in another thread: I agree completely, and I got to thinking about how prepping is a classic "individualist" type of activity...in prepping, each of us cares for ourselves and our own. Yet with each passing day, this idea of "responsibility for self" gets pushed further to the margins of American culture. The USA is rapidly developing its own version of "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz," which was the phrase printed on Nazi coinage. It meant, "The common good trumps the individual's good." In other words, classic socialism: The group over the individual. (With a powerful, privileged, charismatic, isolated, centralized, immune, and oratorically gifted leader determining what "group good" is, of course.) So this got me to thinking about how .gov is keeping tabs on preppers. Some say it's so .gov knows where to grab food and water to redistribute when the S hits. Then I got to thinking about the farmers. They should be ideally situated to sustain themselves, right? But almost certainly .gov would federalize farms in a famine-type or food-shortage event. I would imagine well-stocked preppers would be located and shamed, re-framed as "hoarders" in a bad event, and perp-walked in front of the cameras as the evil man who would not share his food and water. (And by the way, look at all the evil guns he owns.) This evil man was "killing children, and women, and minorities" by not sharing his supplies with them, etc. We know how this media script would go, and we know what howls for justice the public would demand for this vile sin of hoarding and selfishness. In many threads we have these teenage-sounding pronouncements of how people are armed and able to defend themselves and their supplies against brigands. But brigands may not be the people coming for your stash-- it would likely be .gov, coming in the name of moral authority to redistribute for the good of ALL the people. And they have more armament than any of you do. (Except for maybe LongGun1. ) But recently I've had a new vision for where my prepping will lead: after scrimping and saving for a rainy day, I'll be the guy who the government (probably local) forces to share his bounty -- and there will be no appreciation or thanks, I will simply be the villain for not willingly opening a vein and bleeding for my fellow man. This has already happened financially at the fed level with the bailout. I'm the guy who saves and foregoes the pleasures of today for a better tomorrow; but the gov't bails out those who lived for the day, made the risky bets, bought houses they couldn't afford, etc. Responsible people like me (and you, I assume) get stuck with the bill. So why the heck should anybody be responsible in this society? Responsibility just means you pay the bill for the irresponsible. In a socialist society, after you wolf down your own portion, you work on voting yourself your neighbor's portion. So this is where I thought myself into a corner. It seems to me of little use to prepare for more than a few weeks; if I have more than that, I think it will simply be "liberated" from me, lawfully and with the weight of morality and legal authority, by my government (fed, state, or local), who will be following the demands of all the socialists out there who know they can simply and legally vote my water and food, and your water and food, to themselves. What's the point?