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If you could have any rank in the army...

Discussion in 'US Army Forum' started by Biscuitsjam, Mar 21, 2008.

  1. Biscuitsjam

    Biscuitsjam

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    What would it be?

    Take all pay and associated benefits out of the equation. Ignore prestige, job opportunities after the military, or what your family would think. If you could be any rank, which one would you choose?

    Would it be:

    A specialist, enough time in service to avoid the bad details, but low enough in rank to avoid having to take much responsibility?

    A Captain, with his own company?

    A Lieutenant General, with enough power to make real changes?

    A First Sergeant, the top enlisted guy in a company?

    A buck Sergeant, in charge of a group of enlisted soldiers, making things happen?

    A Chief Warrant Officer, "the best rank in the army."
     

  2. slyjackalope

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    Major General, since that's as high as I can go in the JAG Corps.
     
  3. Wyocop

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    CW4.....on an SF ODA.

    For officers I think LTC is as good as it gets. Everything before battalion command seems to lead up to it and prepare an officer for it. Everything after battalion command seems to take an officer farther and farther away from really leading troops by example.

    Keep in mind that my perspective is that of a former fire team leader. Many officers may not agree. But I'll tell you this: I really felt and was influenced by my battalion commander's personality and policies on a daily basis; I knew very little about my brigade and division commanders at all.

    Similar for NCOs. I felt the influence of my BN CSM but I knew very little about CSMs above that level. I wasn't really aware of CSMs above battalion level on a daily basis.
     
  4. SIGSAREBETTER

    SIGSAREBETTER Teh Pieman

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    Drill sergeant.

    "Beat your face PRIVATE! Beat your face!
     
  5. AF-Odin

    AF-Odin

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    I think it was in one of Tom Clancy's novels when a group of CIA agents were going somewhere posing as military officers and they wanted to decide what rank they would pose as and the decision was to be LTCs. The reasoning was that this rank was high enough that most people showed deference and did not want to mess with you, but it was not high enough that it caused undue excitement and concern from folks like the protocol office. Actually, though, LTC is great for what was stated above, you are still at the tip of leading be it in the Army and Marines as a battalion commander or in the AF as a squadron commander. You are really still close enough to the troops, yet you are at a point where you can be a major decision maker and hopefully screen the troops from the "good idea fairy." Understanding that ALL officer ranks have politics involved, as a battalion/squadron commander, you can avoid most (especially if you really don;t care about making O-6 and just want to do the job and take care of the troops).
     
  6. jolly roger

    jolly roger

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    Command Sergeant Major. Nobody fs with a CSM
     
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  7. the iceman

    the iceman Proud Veteran CLM

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    I'd jsut like to wear the old shiny "general belt!" :whistling:
     
  8. fourdeuce2

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    Not always true. When I was at Fort Benning, our Battalion CSM decided he didn't like me(I was a SSG), so he told the 1SG to move me from the job the he(the 1SG) had put me in. The 1SG told the CSM if he wanted to come and run the company he could and the 1SG would go run the battalion(Gotta admire that 1SG :tongueout:). The CSM didn't like it, but he was in the wrong, there.
    Anyway, he eventually got rid of the 1SG and put another one in, and got his wishes, but not much later it was recommended to him that he should retire(and I went back to the job I was doing before he came along).:tongueout:
     
  9. MSgt Dotson

    MSgt Dotson

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    a retired 4 star General with 30 years in servicel? :)
     
  10. the iceman

    the iceman Proud Veteran CLM

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    Just as long as you're not Wesley Clark!
     
  11. xxiv

    xxiv NRA Member

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    CPL, fire team leader. Still a trigger puller/troop director hybrid. Squad leader on up you become more of a full time director of your two fire teams and hardly ever focus on laying in on fire dropping targets.
     
  12. AKJD

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    The ones I enjoyed the most were Squad Leader, Recon Squad Leader, LRSD Team Leader and First Sergeant.
     
  13. KG Dad

    KG Dad Lead by Example

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    Ah, yes, the humility of Maj. Gen Enoch Crowder, the Army JAG during WWI. Recommended for promotion to Lieutenant General for his work as JAG, Provost Marshal, etc., he declined since he led no troops in battle and other general officers were not attaining the 3-star rank. Unfortunately, he set a precedent and politics being what they are, the JAG will be a two-star for the indefinite future.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Crowder

    LTC, since that's where I'll top out.

    MJH, another JAG
     
  14. Hal9mm

    Hal9mm

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    without the pay and all the other BS E-5 Team Leader. You have your little team, no one
    bothers you with too much admin crap and u just do your job.
     
  15. 11P&Y

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    Any possible...a full bird. They make alot of desicions that affect the soldiers the most and in my opinion, happy soldiers make max performance a reality.
     
  16. AK_Stick

    AK_Stick AAAMAD

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    CW-2


    Not a W-3 or -4 so they're not going to put you in charge. Not a -1 so they trust you. And you get paid to break a helicopter.


    Or E-6. You're above Sgt, so you get to tell them what needs to be done, and not have to actually conduct the actual menial task, yet you're low enough that you can get away with being one of the guys still.
     
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