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ideal HD gun

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by tagaykoyan, Jul 23, 2007.

  1. tagaykoyan

    tagaykoyan

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    is there an ideal HD gun that is not a revolver? i'm planning to dispose (actually nakapost na sa buy n sell 2Q) my revolver because my wife finds it hard to press the DA trigger. problem naman pag 1911 is hirap sya sa pag rack ng slide...

    here are the options:
    1. pa trigger job na lang yung revolver since its the easiest to use (point n shoot)
    2. look for a semiauto with an easy to rack slide
    3. replace my 1911's recoil spring to facilitate easier racking of slide
    4. by a gun with a decocker. i-cock na lang nya kung kelangan
    5. buy pepperspray
     

  2. batangueno

    batangueno Shock Resist

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    You should bring her to a gun store and let her try out the different guns. Check for grip size, trigger reach and ability to rack the slide if a semi auto.
     
  3. TTPower

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    will u consider a shotgun? try the escort pump shotgun... its easy to cock and the hand guard use for cocking is positioned nearer for easy cocking :) and little aiming is required :thumbsup:
     
  4. Shotgun

    Get a 20ga police model, load it with #4 buck para light ang recoil. 5+1 would be enough. Kung pwede, mag semi-auto ka, may mga Turkish made semi na wala pang 20th.

    Kahit babae madali mai-rack yun
     
  5. Allegra

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    stick w/ the revo and make her hands stronger instead
    Kahit semi-auto yan shestill gonna deal w/ recoil anyway
    Bili ka ng grip strengthener, and make her dryfire hanggang dumugo kamay nya
    Her finger will grow muscles and the gun will get smoother

    edit - teka pala, what kind revolver is she using?
     
  6. Best would be the M16 IMO. Easy to load, easy to point and shoot, very manageable recoil, has a 30 round capacity and if chamber loaded, all she needs to do is flick the safety lever from Safe to Semi and pull the trigger.
     
  7. cebuboy

    cebuboy toy soldier

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    IMHO a good HD gun would be a 4" revolver in .357 magnum. if budget permits, the 4" S&W 686 is a good choice. The Ruger GP100 is a cheaper alternative, but trigger pull is a bit harder. If budget is bit tight, find a .38 special model 10.

    I preffer revolvers for HD situations because it is simpler to use, just load it and store it. When the need arises, just aim and shoot.

    Or you can get a da/sa pistol, load it, decock it then store it like a revolver.
     
  8. tagaykoyan

    tagaykoyan

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    i haven't considered a shotgun kasi i wanted something that i can keep in my small gun safe. my current revo is a ported 4" taurus tracker .357. very very nice gun, love it. but if my wife can't use it properly, its useless.

    will consider the SA/DA pistol. any recommendations?
     
  9. kontra

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    my vote goes to HK pistols. they have sa/da or the LEM trigger. can be in 9mm, .40 & .45. lots of sizes and grip styles to choose from for your wife.
     
  10. TTPower

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    can ur wife handle the recoil of a .357?
    before i suggest any SA/DA pistol have u tried a khar cw9? its a single stack DA only pistol, grip is perfect for small hands and the trigger pull is really smooth much better than a glock. trigger pull is around 5-6lbs. only. since u keep the gun in a safe and the only time ur going to take it out is when u need it, safety is not much an issue. ( i dont think i'm helping here.... lalo ko pinapadami choices mo hehehehe)

    for SA/DA... there are a lot hehehehehe! if ur going to ask me CZ, HK, SIG. btw how much are u willing to spend?
     
  11. revo

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    sir, i'll have you know that my girlfriend tried that but in no way did it make her hands stronger.

    her technique just got better.

    revo

    :supergrin:
     
  12. tagaykoyan

    tagaykoyan

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    she can handle the 357 recoil. the gun is ported, and when in the safe its loaded with 38+p sabers.

    how about a norinco np22, the sig p226 clone? it has a decocker, and 17k lang. is it reliable though?
     
  13. TTPower

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    i have read some BOGS have that... no complains so far and they say that the parts and mags of the original sig are interchangeable with the np22. well for me thats a good sign! plus the the price is really tempting thats why i also plan to get the norinco cz clone. its only 14k even cheaper hehehehehe :)
     
  14. For all guns in 9, 40 and 45 offerings, you will always have to deal with racking the slide against 15-20 lbs of spring pressure. No way around that, not a Beretta, sig, Norinco or 1911 format.

    If it has to be a semi, despite great advise you've been offered so far to stick with a revolver, better go down to a 22LR, with the Ruger Mark III camp gun in 10+1 loaded with high velocity softpoints bullets as you're only other smart choice.

    Even a toddler can pull against the 5-7 lb recoil spring of such a gun to load the chamber. It shoots fast, so 5-10 hits in the chest area won't be a problem to your wife. She'd be like you personal "Alias" operative, as the low recoil of such gun can be truly deadly with multiple and highly accurate hits.

    It now becomes an issue of practice to perfect the use of her new defensive tool. ;)
     
  15. maskytrading

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    Try any Taurus snubbie with a Titanium frame in 38spl with 7 rounds. Bring the revolver and your wife to a gunsmith and have the trigger pull smoothed, lightened and adjusted to her liking.
     
  16. Allegra

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    sir have you tried the titanium snubbie?
    I cant stand the recoil , very unpleasant even w/ standard fmj


    to the thread starter , why dont yu just get some shooting lessons for your wife? so she can shoot any gun
     
  17. jundeleon

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    There's a Beretta Cheetah .380 with a tip up barrel.
    No need to rack the slide to load.
    But I dont know how fast it can be done especially in a self-defense situation.
    Finding one here is another problem.
     
  18. mitchshrader

    mitchshrader Deceased

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    on a S&W .38 special model 10.

    the trigger is slicker than the usual taurus, 9 lbs double action.

    i'd get a set of wolf springs for that taurus and test some .38 FBI load ammo.

    she can too fire it. you need to change the grips to something that fits her hand, not yours.

    you need to get her a squeeze ball to build hand strength, radius the trigger and find some grips that fit.


    i've taught 12 year olds to shoot a .38 special. If you can't learn that go to the .22. I'm not being sarcastic, cause a .38 special is as easy as it gets. shoot one case of wadcutters, then move to FBI loads.

    that's how you do it. that's the answer. that works. you don't fix the issue by changing platforms. you fix the issue by getting the wife a tool made to her strength and size. I have a .357 setting on my nightstand right now loaded with .38s, with undersized grips to fit my daughters hands, (who is 15) .. JUST IN CASE..

    i am willing to spend any amount of money on a gun that works better and there is not one that works better for an untrained novice to become accurate rapidly. I'm 52. I've seen many many people trained. START WITH THE GOAL IN MIND... not 'buy the fancy gun cause you have an excuse'..