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I want to take the designer of the Ruger Mark III to the range and...

Discussion in 'Rimfire Forum' started by Big Dog Dad, May 3, 2012.

  1. vram74

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    Got rid of mine. Accurate pistol but boring to shoot. Sure I could spend $20 and shoot all day, but never enjoyed it. Read instructions, watched videos, did everything to the letter and never could get the upper off the frame. When you are told by the manufacturer to whack the back of your gun with a mallet repeatedly, something went wrong somewhere designing the firearm. There are things that could be changed to make it better, but Ruger isn't going to bother. It's not like they don't hear the complaints.
     
  2. MadMonkey

    MadMonkey Spershul Furces

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  3. Alizard

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    All I know is, the owner of the one Mk III I worked on tried to disassemble it per instructions and it got so jammed up nobody could get ANYTHING to move. Eventually, we had all five of use from the bullseye shooting league working on it (two of us gunsmiths capable of blueprinting a Mk II) and we could not get it freed up. Gave it back to the owner of the range (bought it there) and he gave up. Gun had to be shipped back to Ruger.

    RIDICULOUS!
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2012
  4. Bob Hafler

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    If you can't read and follow instructions and watch and understand the video's on how to take five pieces apart and put back together, then yes maybe you should not buy a Ruger MKIII. No it will not fall apart like a Glock when it comes to field stripping. Yes it will take some thought, but it's not the rocket science, or the PITA some seem to make it sound.. Good grief guys it's five pieces that have to go back together in a certain sequence. :dunno:
     
  5. itstime

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    The reason I don't own a MK is because of reading postske this.
     
  6. doc540

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    Don't even imply that I'm mechanically incompetent.

    I've owned 14 used BMW's and do most of my own work.

    Trust me, I know the meaning of "over engineered".

    Not only did I sell my first Ruger Mk, when I was considering a rimfire semi for my training classes I avoided it like the plague. It should win the Rube Goldberg Memorial Citation.

    Ruger SR22? Now, that's how things are supposed to work.
     
  7. Alizard

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    Yeah, I'm sure you're right. All this talk about Mk III reassembly problems is just hot air.





     
  8. Bob Hafler

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    Like I said if it's to tough to take apart and reassemble then your right don't buy the Ruger MKIII.

    Personally I think it's a great little plinker that doesn't need to be taken apart very often. I'm also aware that many people can't/won't follow directions. Then when they get into trouble it's the guns problem. Sometimes it might be the gun but I know guys who have never taken it apart and it still works fine. They also never did some of these half a**ed upgrades some people do to these MK pistols.
     
  9. tcruse

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    I agree that it can be reassembled bby rolling the directions. It is not handy to insert the mags several times during the process. It is an issue that will make the gun not suitable for some people.
    Removing the mag safety fixs the problem. It also is nice to not have to pry the mag out on every reload. The gun should come with both hammers and buffers or have an optional mag safety. I suspect that the whole problem is a result of bad regulations in some states.
    Actually the mag safety is not something that you want to train shooters to rely on. It probably will encourage more unintended discharges overall. I do like the gun overall.
     
  10. Bob Hafler

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    I believe they put these safety features on 22's because many beginers usually start with 22's. That and to get past some states goofy laws. When it comes to the MK series of pistols by Ruger I guess I just don't get this defeatist attitude or the fear of buying a pistol because it takes a little thought and effort to break down and reassemble. People these are fine little pistols that will keep you entertained for years. Like I mentioned I have friends who have never broken them down and they've owned and shot them for a long time. I also have another friend who's (I think) 12 year old son can have it apart and back together in a matter of minutes. People seem to think these are high maintenance pistols and there not. Many times a little CLP on a round barrel type brush, a 3/8" airtist brush and a 22 caliber boresnake is all you need.
     
  11. doc540

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    "I just don't get this defeatist attitude or the fear of buying a pistol because it takes a little thought and effort to break down and reassemble."

    As a training pistol getting industrial use, why would I want to buy a tool that takes more "thought and effort" to service than another Ruger which takes less of the same?

    fer instance:
    Just from a mechanical point of view, if one was living in jungle-like conditions why would one carry a Luger when a 1911 was available?

    finally:
    Many MkIII Ruger owners prefer them. Congrats and enjoy what you like. However, many others obviously don't prefer the Mk's mechanical design. What's "not to get" about that?

    To each his own. Live and let live.
     
  12. Bob Hafler

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    I agree. Refer to first sentence in reply 28.
     
  13. MoNsTeR

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    Just clean the damned thing less often. It's a .22!
     
  14. doc540

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    I can understand not cleaning the barrel of a .22, but my experience has been that most .22LR ammo is among the dirtiest of the dirty and not cleaning the action causes problems.
     
  15. toshbar

    toshbar Timber Baron

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    The inside of my 22/45 is fully coated with powder. It's nasty, but I'm not going to clean it any time soon.

    The only reason I cleaned it last time was because after about 6000 rounds, there was so much gunk in the extractor groove, the extractor wouldn't even touch the rim of the case to yank it out of the chamber....20 sec with a dental pick fixed that.
     
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  16. Camu Mahubah

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opNMCQ_sqwo&list=FLhlCw9DCxpiPudN2dDEAbGA&index=15&feature=plpp_video"]RUGER MARK III FIELDSTRIP (CLOSE UP) - YouTube[/ame]

    I had a bunch of trouble until I watched this vid...granted mine is a regular mkIII target model but assembly is the same. You will need a non-marking punch. I used a pencil. I'm looking for a non-marking punch. My buddy was gonna make me one out of soft brass buy I haven't seen it yet. Oh and a plastic or rubber mallet.

    Mine is way way tight! I hope after a few teardowns it loosens up. And yes I would recommend the Buck Mark to noobs...
     
  17. SpectreRider

    SpectreRider Armed Citizen

    Satan offered Bill Ruger the perfect .22 rimfire pistol design in exchange for his soul.
    Bill asked for a sample, saw how to build the perfect .22 but the devil pulled away the plans before he saw how to handle takedown.

    And then Bill refused to make the deal.

    And the MK I was the result.

    The solution has been invented though.

    http://www.majesticarms.com/index.html
     
  18. countrygun

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    I learned how to take apart and reassemble a Ruger Standard auto at 13 way before people bragged about how much smarter their generation was because they have computers.

    I have heard people complain about the Sigpro series because, unlike the other SIGs you have to actually pull a pin out like an "Old 1911" Oh the horror!

    A gun with more than 6 moving parts is "too complicated" for our enlightened world today:upeyes: Is "progress making us mechanically inept? Is that really "progress"?
     
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  19. glide

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    I watched a YouTube video to figure out how to disassemble/assemble the Mark III and it was so simple to do. I in fact detailed strip mine and installed a trigger kit. It's nice to have the Internet and Google to help out.

    Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine
     
  20. toshbar

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    Mechanical declination stems from a lack of curiosity.