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I think my 21 has proven its durability

Discussion in 'Valuable Info' started by bigbore, Nov 21, 2005.

  1. IT0


    Jun 28, 2011

    Thanks for the post and pictures, it was a very enjoyable read. I have to say those details and pictures say more than anything else I have read here today.

    If you come up with more, please share.
  2. Wvladimire


    Jul 15, 2007
    Cleveland, OH.
    No, it's pretty pathetic that fanatics have no common sense. Cannot look at this test cynically and see that some parts are clearly nonsense and unbelievable. I sourced public documents and videos that can bee seen by anyone, and even one of the public documents is not mainly about glock, but lists the failures of glock pistols during testing against S&W and Sig. Yet the fanatics cannot be reasoned with and won't believe the evidence right before their eyes.

    Glock is not the be all end all of pistol designs. It has it's shortcomings and weaknesses just like others. It has a major marketing campaign that says they are the best, when they are not. The main selling feature of the Glock to police departments was, that it was cheaper than the Sig and better, because it did not have the weakness of the mainspring or hammer spring being covered by a screwed on polymer grip. If that grip chipped or cracked, departments were told, even though the pistol could be fired, albeit a little difficult to not pinch your hand when doing so. It was marketed that the Glock with it's solid polymer grip frame was better. After years of use in my state, the departments are switching back to Sigs and Smith & Wesson, because of too many so called, "user error misfires."

    The facts are there, ignore them if you wish, but there are better pistols out there. I was a huge Glock fan at one time, but when I actually detailed stripped the pistol, and saw how cheaply it was made on the inside, my rose colored glasses were lifted. I have named the cheaply made parts earlier that melt. How do I know this, from experience. Why do I question the test, and take some things about it with a grain of salt, because I was not there, and know that all surveys and tests are curved to support the facts. The biggest red flag for me, was the drop test from the airplane. The pistol was buried up to the grip in mud. And the tester simply pulled the gun out, made sure the chamber was clear, and fired it. Now gravity is gravity, and mud is mud, it was not dry dirt, and you want me to believe that the bore was not filled with debris??? No way, I don't believe it, and will not believe it, because that goes completely against reality and real life experience. Those who do not question that, are just plain zombies. Continue to drink your government Kool-Aid, be good little zombies, and do not question authority.

    ***Or better yet, try the test yourself, from a step ladder, and drop your unloaded pistol in the mud. Do it 10 times, a 100 times, a 1,000 times or less, and tell me that you got no debris in the bore with any of the drops.*** Simple as that, do the test before you attack, demean, and ridicule me. If not, then you show that you do not think on your own, and are a good little zombie.


    BOOSTED12A sequestered!

    that dose it. mythbusters needs to step in right now!
  4. whiskerz


    Mar 30, 2000
    ,ga. usa

    Please provide a link to this document an internet search finds the only place it exsist is in this thread. I searched and could not locate this on the Homeland security website as well. I realize it may be secret squirrel secret but I have a acorn clearance

    which issue of Blue press ?

    I could not find the troll icon to post for you but let me call you one now.

    also in another post you mentioned a Glock 20 in .40s&w . a 20 is 10mm
  5. MaximG23


    Jul 23, 2011
    What I find pathetic is you, on the other hand after all of this, I still went ahead and bought me a G23.
  6. bigbore


    Mar 27, 2000
    NW Ohio
    I haven't posted any updates in a long time, because I don't have much to say. I still shoot this 21 on a regular basis, and it just keep going. I ended up throwing away a couple warn out magazines, but the 21 is still performing like day one; had a good day at the range with it today.
  7. DonM


    Oct 19, 2005
    So what's the point? Been done many times before.
  8. ruthlessFF


    Jan 6, 2004
    thanks for all the updates BigBore. It really is amazing all the things it went through. I hope you continue to post about this from time to time. At the very least it's a good link I can send when someone tells me how much superior a different manufacturer is. :cool:
  9. Varn


    Jan 3, 2012
    This confirms that i have made a good decision in getting a glock as my first gun!
  10. kevin 45

    kevin 45 Roll Tide y'all

    Jun 9, 2012
    NW Alabama
    Seems to be almost as reliable as an anvil. Good work bigbore !
  11. I luv my G21, I luv my G21, I luv my G21, I luv my G21, I luv my G21, I luv my G21...

    Thx Big Bore, use your thread as a reference tool frequently, ended a lot of what otherwise would have been long winded nonsense... lol ;-)

    Facts are stubborn things indeed!
  12. CR500


    Jul 4, 2012
    I also have a G21. never ONCE had a problem! awesome thread.
  13. JBelew


    Oct 15, 2010
    Farmington, AR
    Any news? I loved the 21sf I carried on duty. This 21 got to be used exactly what it was made for and then some. Awesome
  14. MSW


    Oct 15, 2005
  15. Fuzzyhead


    Dec 18, 2013
    St. Louis, MO
    Very cool tests. Thanks for sharing with us. It was pretty fun reading all the stuff yout threw at the gun. I bet Gaston Glock had no idea how good his product was/would become.

    Pretty cool.
  16. r3dot


    Sep 6, 2007
    Izzerwat TX
    I can't believe I never saw this thread. Epic.
  17. I keep coming back to this thread about once every year and it always makes me feel good. As a matter of fact, I'm going to switch to the Glock 21 gen4 for work.

    And what will it replace?

    A Glock 22 gen4.:crazy::thumbsup:
  18. IMPD2079


    Feb 22, 2014
    New Braunfels TX
    When my Department switched to Glocks they had a representative from Glock come to our Department. They showed video from the Glock factory. They disassembled 1,000 Glocks all of the same caliber and threw all the parts in a pile. Reassembled them and everyone fired. They put one in sand and salt water for a year and took it out and it fired. Dropped one from a helicopter and it fired. Great reliable gun. We were issued Glock22 and I carried a Glock 21 as my backup.
  19. Thanks big bore!

    Saw this few years ago on line and it influenced my buying a G 21sf as first handgun.
    I've since bought, sold and traded over 15 Glocks and kept three with 100% confidence and satisfaction that they'll go "bang" when needed and "click," when thy should.

    Appreciate your efforts on this projects!