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I need a wiring solution

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by pal2511, Nov 26, 2004.

  1. pal2511

    pal2511

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    I am having about 8 or 9 cat 5 and 8 or 9 coaxial cables running to one spot. I need to think of a way to mount my router switch cable modem and cable splitters to the wall or a central location . I was thinking of maybe building a wood box or buying one of those plastic deals where you can just pop in the modules...what do you guys think. Here is what it currently looks like..I am still running wires mind you.[​IMG]
     
  2. NetNinja

    NetNinja Always Faithful

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    yep.

    You may want to move your cat5 cables away from the electrical conduits.
    RF interference.
     


  3. Texas T

    Texas T TX expatriate CLM

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    And if you can't move them, run the cables at a 90 degree angle to the electrical when they have to cross.
     
  4. pal2511

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    Unfortunately pretty much everywhere I run them in teh basement is gonna have electrical conduits....all the walls have electrical conduits and I have 2 or 3 conduits running the length of the basement...I have a total of like 15 or 16 outlets down here...
     
  5. pal2511

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    Got a picture of how I am supposed to do that by chance ...or can you explain it?

    I am looking at the home networking products at lowes that comes with a cable splitter patch panel and has room for a couple extra things like an amp and stuff in the box for 80 dollars....hat do you guys think of osmething like that/
     
  6. gwalchmai

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    Electrical wires produce radio frequency radiation (RF) which will induce currents in yout network cables, making your network slower. You should avoid placing netwok cables close to electrical cables wherever possible, and if you have to cross over them, do so at right angles if you can, or as great an angle as possible, since this RF problem will be greatest when your network cable is parallel to the power cables. A few inches of separation is usually enough.
     
  7. pal2511

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    Ok I got you now

    so you make the wires like a cross basically and dont do the parallel thing.
     
  8. unixglocker

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    slap up a piece of plywood and screw the stuff to that maybe?
     
  9. I used to install that sort of thing. What we used was a metal box (normally inset into the wall) with a "pegboard" behind it and a series of leviton patch panels for the hooksups. All available at Home Depot. A small box was 24 x 24, fits a telephone panel on top, coax below, and a network hub on bottom if you squeeze. If you want EVERYTHING to fit in it, get the 24x 48 and your linksys router and cable modem will go in it as well.
     
  10. bbauman

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    Tie wraps go a long way to making things look a bit more organized. You can pull slack in individual cables up in the ceiling to have them all even on your shelf. $0.02.
     
  11. SamBuca

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    I've never had a parallel inductance problem with CAT5 or CAT6. Coax is a nightmare....the shielding works fine against your normal RF, but next to an electrical wire it sucks.

    Use the velcro ties. Twist ties take FOREVER and zip strips are more or less permanent.

    If you're rewiring the whole house anyway, make wiring troughs for the coax/CAT5 and keep them away from power lines.
     
  12. pal2511

    pal2511

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    What is a wire trough? Is it like a wire conduit?
     
  13. SamBuca

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    It's just a dedicated place to stash the wires. You could route PVC pipe and put strong plastic twine in it when you build it....then when you want to run another wire, tie it to the twine along with a new piece of twine and yank on the other end. The smooth curves of the PVC will let you route it through the entire house and attaching another piece of twine will let you do it again.
     
  14. pal2511

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    How far away should I keep the coax wires away from the power lines? I dont know if I am too keen on running PVC pipe but it would look a lot cleaner if I did that..
     
  15. pal2511

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    Do they make a trough or whatever its called that is open on top that you can just lay the wires on top. Like a pipe that is cut in half or something
     
  16. gwalchmai

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    pal, usually a foot or so is plenty of separation. Also be sure to keep your ethernet cables away from any flourescent light ballasts, which tend to be pretty "noisy" electronically.

    Most home centers have a product called "wiremould" which you can house the cables in, but it's kinda pricy, as would be any kind of tray solution. If you're handy though you could make a tray by glueing up some strips of moulding.
     
  17. grantglock

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    yep, called wire trays
     
  18. pal2511

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    Anything else that can work as a wire tray? You said I could glue boards together......I dont know how well that would work out for me...I would prefer a plastic of some sorts but I want teh cheapest thing
     
  19. gwalchmai

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    Wire wrap?

    Zipties with those little square plastic stick-on things to attach the ties to?

    Check at Radio Shack.
     
  20. gamegod86

    gamegod86 Male Lesbian

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    Is your coax a distribution system?

    As in 1 source spread out to 9 TVs?

    If so, you may need a distribution amp, especially if you have cable internet. Cable modems are really picky about signal strength, and every time you split it, the signal is attenuated.

    You may possibly need something like the KR-104R on this page: http://www.markertek.com/p/fullpage.php?page=151 Right side, third from bottom.

    You may need two or three (or a different, larger product) if you have 9 outputs.
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