Now I can stop flooding the forum with the 617 threads. I ended up getting a 6" 10 shot locally. I went and looked at it a wile ago but it was too high. I ended up getting $80 off the price so that made it a little more bearable. I will keep my eye out for a 4" but I think I will have fun with this one for a while. Wanna kill these ads? We can help!