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hydra-shoks

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by sps, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. sps

    sps

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    I just finished a thread putting down hydra-shoks.
    I'm curious as to dept.'s and other agencies still issuing
    these???
     
  2. Brad55102

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    Aren't Hydra Shoks old tech.?
    Its the HST now
     

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  3. sps

    sps

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    Brad-yes hydra-shoks are to a certain degree. According to federal it is still a top seller
    for leo and civilian. I was amazed at how many agencies still use them! Some have switched back to them.
    I've heard rumors about winchester ranger ammo problems?
     
  4. 9mm +p+

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    Just because it's not the latest whiz bang bullet does not mean it won't work. Are they my first choice? Nope but I'd use them if it's what i had no problem. We get caught up way to often in the newest this and thatl ike 9BPLE. It's been putting folks on the ground for 30yrs, no whiz bang bullet just performance.
     
  5. ponders

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    high rate of failure to expand with those
     
  6. barth

    barth six barrels

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    Think Miami vice, big hair, halter tops, pastel colors.
    Top rated in the 80s and will still work today but...
    New high tech bullets (HST) with that expand at lower velocities.
    Are bonded for limited core jacket separation through light barriers (auto glass / car doors).
    And run fast burn, low flash, gunpowder for short barrel performance.
    These are advantages are worth having.

    There is a Federal LE Tactical® Hydra-Shok®.
    And I don't know if it's been updated or not? (I'm thinking yes)
    That may add to the confusion.
     
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  7. CATATOMIC

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    Wouldn't hurt my feelings if they quit making them. I never liked them. I've seen the 45 230 Hydra Shok bounce off car doors before.
     
  8. hotpig

    hotpig IAFF Local 4766 CLM

    They are still Federals top shelf cross over personal protection and LE round. So long as there is consumer demand they will still make it.

    I'm a Ranger dealer, there is no tech bulletins or recent recalls on ammo right now.
     
  9. fredj338

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    Many depts used to issue them, they were pretty good in their day. Yes, old tech, but they do still work, probably as well as any other, but they do cost more than most & that is going to win the contract @ the end of the day.
     
  10. PghJim

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  11. Jdog

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    thats a cool link w/lots of cool data
    thanks for sharing

    interesting how the heavier grain 10mm rounds did less stopping
     
  12. Glock19Fan

    Glock19Fan Cool Guy

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    I cant list any offhand.

    However, after being forced to carry FMJ, you have a new appreciation for JHPs. I would have no problem whatsoever carrying Hydrashoks in my weapon as long as I know they were reliable.

    I have tested them in ballistic gelatin in the past (135 and 147 grain 9mm) and even through 4 layers of denim I had no bullets fail to expand.
     
  13. They are old technology, but they'll still punch holes in people just like the newest designs. That being said, it doesn't make sense to choose Hydrashoks when the newest designs that perform better and more reliably cost the same.

    Sent from my Motorola Atrix
     
  14. fredj338

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    In many cases cost less! Point, if you have a couple boxes of HydrSHok, they don't need to be thrown away. Many, many LEO & civ used them & still do to great affect today.
     
  15. Quarter Tank

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    If and when I become LEO and my department issues HydraShocks, I will use them with confidence. They will penetrate and expand and put perps on the ground consistently
     
  16. cadillacguns

    cadillacguns Millennium Member

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    I have a box of 50 left over from 1996, through them in the car trunk, can't seem to shoot them up, or throw them away.
     
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  17. ULVER

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    I still recall when they were "Scorpion" rounds. Pretty neat back then...:supergrin: Back then...:yawn:

    In the 80's we had one agency issue the 124gr. +P+ Hydra-Shok in 9mm. It was way slow, quite lame, and didn't expand worth a fart, after what mattered.

    Can't say it doesn't work, but have they updated the design, since I was a young man>?:dunno:
     
  18. 513GunGuy

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    I have no problems with hydra shocks. We carry them in our guns and they seem to work well. Truth being told we have not had an officer involved shooting in over 20 years. Not a whole lot of performance information to draw from.
     
  19. JohnnyReb

    JohnnyReb Lifetime Member

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    There are better, and worse bullets. Many agencies around here used to issue the hydra-shok, but have since switched to other brands.
     
  20. Merkavaboy

    Merkavaboy Code-7A KUZ769

    Many of the Hydra-Shok bullets in various calibers and weights have undergone redesigns over the years, especially regarding the center post in the HP cavity.

    Note: when Tom Burczynski still held the rights to the Hydra-Shok, there were quite a few different rounds in different calibers. The Scorpion load was just one style in 38Spl. (146gr wadcutter style). There was also the UPL, UDL, Hunter, etc.
     
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