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hunting rifle advice

Discussion in 'Hunting, Fishing & Camping' started by KevR, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. KevR

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    I'd like to get into Hunting for hogs and deer. I've got several friends that hunt and I'd like to be able to go with them. I'd like to get a cheaper rifle and and read that a lot of people recommend Savage rifles and I've checked their website and they look pretty nice. I bet I could pick up a used one cheap from a pawn shop or private seller around town.

    I'm trying to decide what caliber to get and I don't know much about rifle ammo. I'd like something cheap so I can hit the range, but with enough punch to take both types of game I mentioned. Any advice?
     
  2. paynter2

    paynter2 It ain't over Millennium Member

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    If I were making the same decision, I'd probably go with a .308. 30 cal, good availability, plenty of punch for either animal, and a short action.

    Lots of guys like the 30-06 and .270 for medium rifles. But, again, I like the short throw.

    Savage makes a good rifle - or so I understand. I have never owned or shot one. But, the GT brain trust seems to like them. Again, if it were me, I'd look for a used 700 Rem or 788 Rem. I'm really partial to the 788 - not pretty, but great accuracy, great trigger, very solid, and cheap. You should be able to find a good used one for between $400-500 dollars. I say 'used', they are no longer in production.

    I think you can find a used 700 for $350 on up.
     


  3. Savage
    Stevens 200 (same as Savage buy no accutrigger)
    Mossberg ATR100
    Remington 700
    Winchster 70

    Are the ones I have experience with. The Mossberg is the cheapest, a little rougher on the edges but works just fine. They are only $350 new with a cheap scope on them at the big box stores. Used ones go for about $250. The scope is cheap and so are the rings, both should be replaced eventually but they will get you started hunting.

    The new Marlin, S+W, TC, and Howa bolt action rifles all have gotten good reviews.

    As for caliber, .308, .30-06 or .270 will be the easiest to find and least expensive because they are the most popular.

    Stay away from the 7MM and 300 magnums if you want to keep ammo costs down. They hit the animals, your shoulder, and the pocket book harder than the above calibers.

    Now is the time to buy a used hunting rifle. Season is over, bills from Christmas are due and folks need the money.

    If you want a really cheap hunting rifle look for a used Mosin Nagant. They are about $79 plus shipping so should be around $100. No scope, but surplus ammo is cheap (and corrosive so you need to clean it well), and soft point hunting ammo is available.
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2010
  4. EL COLONEL

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    Get a remingtron ADL 700 in 30-06 at Academy for 439.00........:wavey:
     
  5. sourdough44

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    30-06 is fine but I'd get a 308, which is also ideal. For the best deal look for a lightly used one.
     
  6. Rutha73

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    Weatherby makes the Vanguard series, which is pretty affordable. Weatherby website says they start at $419.00 and come in all the popular calibers.
     
  7. I have a couple of Savage. I used to have a Rem 700. I like the 700 a little better (but it usually costs more). Nothing wrong with the Savage, just a matter of taste. I have to say the Savage fits me better (must have to do with grip design, length of pull, etc, on their standard stock). The Savage action is accurate, but a little rougher in working the bolt then my Remington was.

    But anyway, on to caliber. For deer, hogs, and any other medium to large game, the .308 is the way to go. A very common caliber. Tons of factory loadings, from the cheapest foreign brands in 150gr FMJ, to expensive domestic match ammo in 168gr, to heavy hunting rounds in 180 (and all the hunting rounds from 150 to 180gr). Just tons of stuff.

    The .30-06 may have more to offer in versatility, especially for game larger than deer, and for handloaders. But generally, it seems to me the .308 offers almost as much utility, and has slightly less recoil, and is more common for factory match and target ammo.

    I have both calibers. For the above reasons, I'd typically suggest .308. If you are hunting things larger than deer, or if you are handloader, then you'd probably prefer .30-06 and wouldn't need my advice anyway :)
     
  8. jjsobba

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    I would buy either a Ruger M77 or Weatherby Vanguard. Both are good rifle that won't cost you an arm and a leg. Caliber wise my favotite is 25-06 but ammo is harder to find and will cost you a little more. So if you are looking for convience and price go with a 270
     
  9. havensal

    havensal Nozzle Jockey CLM

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    I have both a Savage and a Stevens in .270. They both are great shooters.

    I recommend the .270 for most big game hunting, but .308 is plenty for someone who is a little recoil shy.

    .243 would be fine also. :wavey:
     
  10. pennlineman

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    For the game you listed I would go with the .270. Nothing wrong with the .308 either. But, if you think you may be hunting something bigger in the future get the .30-06, it handles the heavy bullets better than the .308.

    The Remington model 700 has always been my favorite.
     
  11. gunrunner0

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    +1 For Savage. I love mine and the Accutrigger is great. I had a Remington and it was a nice gun, but it just was'nt for me.
     
  12. superjew

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    savage 110 in any caliber is $397 at walmart.
     
  13. javabum

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    Savage makes a very fine rifle.but if i were you i wouldn't get anything but a .30-.06.It will knock down most anything in the U.S.
    I personally have the Remington .30-.06 as my choice.But you cant go wrong with a savage.especially one with the accu trigger.

    Good luck with your rifle hunt,Kevin
     
  14. 2afreedom

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    You have been given a lot of good advice so far. The only thing I would add is don't overlook the ol .30-30 if you are hunting short distances. I bought one last year and after years of shooting bolt guns I am converted. Up to 100 or so yards I prefer my Marlin 336 to my Remington .270.
     
  15. EL COLONEL

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    I too prefer a 30-30 to a 270 , bigger bullet , more knock down power, why would anybody like the 270 better unless you are shooting over 200 yards...:whistling:
     
  16. Big Bird

    Big Bird NRA Life Member

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    Bigger bullet? Yep. More knockdown power? Not even close. The .270 Winchester 130 grain bullet at around 3000 fps will have about 40% more energy than a 30-30 150 grain at around 2400 fps. If you want to compare same size bullets the .270 wins even more because the 150 grain .270 bullet as a higher sectional density than the 150gr .30 bullet and will easily out penetrate the 30-30. Its not a fair fight. Compare the 30/06 to the .270 and the numbers are much tighter.
     
  17. yeap

    30-06 or 270Winny will always outdue the 30-30 ,which is not a bad round for close in hunting.


    Also the 30-06 would gain your more effective reach, flattery trajectory and heavier bullets over the 30-30. the heavier bullets are not best suited in a 30-30 due to length and powder characteristics
     
  18. Big Bird

    Big Bird NRA Life Member

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    Don't get me wrong. I'm not dissin' the 30/30. Its a perfectly capable cartridge inside its useful range. But at the end of the day its an 1890's era blackpowder cartridge they found did even better with smokeless powder. But its trajectory limits its utility. Nobody can dispute the ole 30/30 has probably killed more deer than anything out there.

    But when you compare it to the next generation of bottleneck, high pressure, high velocity ammo (like a 7x57 Mauser or 30/06 or .270 Winchester) designed for use in turnbolt action rifles it ain't even in the same ballpark.