I was watching some show on Versus this afternoon - flipping through. Some guy takes a 250yd shot on a whitetail. First shot - IN THE ASS! He missed by a good 12-18" (deer was quartering away). He gets lucky that he probably bangs the spine and the deer is sorta flopping around, so he gets a second shot, which is a mortal wound, but the deer still continues 25-50 yds (on camera) jumping all around. The 3 guys on the hunt are high-fiving and talking about how thankful they were they got that second shot and how funny the first one was. If you think an 18" miss is a good shot at 250 yds, don't take a 250yd shot! Just last month, F&S had an article (or was it OL) about a deer drive. The farkin deer was shot THREE TIMES by guys with buckshot as it tried to evade the drive. IIRC, 2 out of the 3 shots were by the DRIVERS! It seemed the author didn't have a real problem with that at all. (Serious harm to the deer AND unsafe firing of buckshot in the vicinity of the standers. EEEEK!) Countless times on TV, I watch some guy make a marginal shot, and then pat himself on the back that he at least hit the animal. It just rubs me the wrong way. Show some humility at causing needless suffering, ya jerk! I realize stuff happens. You don't always get the shot you want or you flinch or whatever. But don't be congratulating yourself on a job not-well-done. I suspect 99% of deer hunters would cringe at that moment, not be happy.