I do have another question for you guys and gals that have hunted either big bears up north. I have been doing some penetration tests with all my 35s and my 45 WM shooting thru one gallon oil jugs with 5/8" plywood stacked in between the jugs. Give me an idea the diameter and about size of a 1000-1200# shoulder bone? And how thick would his shoulder meat be before you get to his vitals? And if the shoulder bone was lying on the ground could you break thru it with an axe? Give me an idea?? Or a photo. Below is 265 gr. Cast Performance for 45WM.