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HST 147+p

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by backcast88, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. backcast88

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    Yesterday I posed the question of Gold Dot 124+p for my Sig 228 and soon to purchase G26 gen 4 and got a lot good responses. I have since found that Federal makes a 147+p and that really intrigues me but have not found a ton of info on the round. Does anybody have any experience with this round? I know it will be good in the 228 but how do you think it will fair out of a G26?
     
  2. G21MAN

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    Tennesee Outdoors tested both the +P and the standard pressure round. The +P lacked penetration, but had more expansion. Google TNoutdoors and the 147 grain hst on youtube.
     


  3. unit1069

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    I don't favor 147-grain in 9mm, but I can tell you those who do claim the standard pressure 147-grain HST does exactly what they want it to do, even in the short-barrel pistols.
     
  4. dkf

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    The 147 grain standard or +P works fine in short barrels. (not that the G26 is that short) The 147 rounds usually lose less velocity in shorter barrels than their lighter 115gr and 124gr brothers. The 147+p is more difficult to find than the standard pressure version. I would carry either.
     
  5. NG VI

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    They penetrate decently enough and expand like nothing else out there. They are consistent, feed well, and do everything any sane person could ever ask of a service pistol load.
     
  6. cangler

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    You can't go wrong with either the 147 +p HST or 147 HST, both the best PD load ive seen from testing... IMO.
     
  7. backcast88

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    I do like what I see from both the standard 147 and the +p and I was going to try the 147 HST but every place is sold out but several have the +p for the same price for I figure what the heck, same bullet with a little more velocity. I don't see a down side.
     
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  8. cangler

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    The only place I've seen it is from kylesgunshop.com but yeah it looks like the regular 147 HST is sold out at the moment. I'm sure he has more coming, it sales well.
     
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  9. Tiro Fijo

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    HST is a great round, but if you want the best get DPX. The Barnes solid copper HP's are in a league of their own. :wavey:
     
  10. The Federal HST 147gr 9mm +P load is one of my two prime carry rounds.
     
  11. ABNAK

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    It is my PRIMARY 9mm carry load in my G19 (getting 1021fps average per my chrono). I think the +P would still do well in a 3.5" barrel. I'd guesstimate that it would put you in the velocity range of the standard pressure load out of a 4" barrel.
     
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  12. DEADEYEGUY

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    I lean more towads the middle weights in +P or +P+ form. But I just got 150 rounds of the Federal HST 147gr. +P rounds after reading a ton of good things about them. All I can say is that all the test medium I've shot them through they opened up to a honkin big .70+ caliber and got good penetration. I still like my Winchester Ranger 127gr. +P+ rounds and the Federal HST 124gr. +P's. But I wouldn't and won't hesitate to carry these in my guns that like the 147gr. rounds better.
     
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  13. adamc

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    I wouldn't fell underarmed with HST 147's, but I prefer the Ranger 127+P+. It gets within 50 fps of 357 sig velocities and has adequate penetration.
     
  14. tonymctones

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    Heavy bullets get the job done and hst's 147 grain are the Cadillac of heavy.
     
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  15. voiceofreason

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    Just run at least 3 or 4 boxes of 50rds each through your gun to check for reliability.

    I believe 124-147 in Ranger Talon, HST, Gold Dot, would be fine.
     
  16. backcast88

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    I shot 50 rounds of 124+p and 147+p HST out of my 228 and it was 100% reliable. The 147+p had less felt recoil and seemed to be slightly more accurate. I ordered the ammo from Kyle's Gun Shop Monday and the ammo showed up Wednesday. I will be ordering more of the 147+p HST and regular 147 HST when he has more in stock.
     
  17. cowboy1964

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    Winchester's quoted velocities are 1350 and 1250.
     
  18. 9mmParabellum

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    The 147gr in 9mm has never really had a good street rep bullet weights in 115-127gr have been better. In 9mm I carry Corbon 115gr JHP.
     
  19. ABNAK

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    Always felt the same way until the last couple years. After reading a good deal about the newer bullet designs (such as HST) and seeing the recommendations it has changed my mind.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the 147gr HST (I like it in +P) one of the better current 9mm loads available?
     
  20. JBP55

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    Things have changed in recent years with the newer ammunition.