How Obama will eliminate the second amendment

Discussion in 'Gun-Control Issues' started by Grayhawk, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

    If you put blinders on a mule, it keeps him walking in line and limits what he can see. That's how the democrats chose their mascot.

    Wanna kill these ads? We can help!
    #121 Bren, Nov 14, 2012
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  2. Jerry

    Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

    You didn't say "teach" you said "forced to listen to your child pray." I don't believe religion, any religion should be "taught" in public schools. That does mean a child or teacher should be "DENIED" their RIGHT to pray at recess, on brakes on before or after school on school property. It's public property just like the streets that run around it. I guess you would stop a person from praying in the street?

    A Christmas-tree and Santa don't represent a religious function, it represents "The Holidays", isn't that what you lefties like to call that time of year. It sure is funny though how The Muslim religion is being "examined, discussed, taught" in public schools while Christianity is taboo. They celebrate Romodon or how ever in the hell it's spelled but don't anyone dare hang up a picture of Santa. Funny how evolution is "taught" but don't mention Creation, that constitutes "religious" speech and will get a teacher fired. Funny how homosexuality is being examined, discussed, taught in public schools while denouncing it will cost a teacher his/her job for hate peach. Education involves discussion all facets, sides and angles of any given subject. All that is being "TAUGHT" is the wrong side of "religion". That's as wrong as teaching religion is "ALL GOOD". How do you feel about your tax money being spent for indoctrination rather than education?

    #122 Jerry, Nov 14, 2012
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  3. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    Jer, i think this thread has run its course, he seems to have an undefeatable ignorance.
  4. This warrants a thread all it's own.
    Religious studies are fine, as long as they are not biased. There is a difference between Santa Claus and nativity scenes in front of a court house.
    Homosexuality is not going away by denying it, and at some appropriate age students should probably be taught about it.
    There is solid scientific proof about evolution, and not a shred of evidence about "creationism".

    As to Obama saying he was against assault weapons during the debate...... Romney said all kinds of things during the debates that he immediately changed his mind on. There seems to be a big difference between saying something during a campaign and actually doing it. Romney would have destroyed the middle and lower class of this country, and bankrupted it in the process. That was the only message he was consistent on. What little actual specifics he gave were b.s. Even mainstream republicans had to hold their noses while voting for him.
    #124 SpringerTGO, Nov 14, 2012
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  5. * 1994 to 2001 – Obama was on the board of the anti-gun Joyce Foundation. This foundation is the largest funding source for radical anti-gun groups in the country.
    * 1996 – Obama supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.
    * 1999 – Obama proposed a 500 percent increase in the excise taxes on firearms and ammunition. This tax would effectively punish gun owners for buying guns and ammunition.
    * 2003 – Obama voted in support of legislation that would have banned privately owned hunting shotguns, target rifles and black powder rifles in Illinois.
    * 2004 – Obama voted against legislation intended to protect homeowners from prosecution in cases where they used a firearm to halt a home invasion.

    Of cousre that was before he was POTUS, but we call those "clues".
  6. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    dont waste any more time....springertgo is either a retard or purposely ignoring the facts; you cant show either one the light.
  7. A majority of the country seems to disagree with you.
  8. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    a majority of the country will suffer the democrat's fiscal cliff fall.

    a majority of the country will probably lose some of their gun rights.

    a majority of the country receives some sort of welfare or government hand out.

    how is being in the majority always a good thing?
  9. Nobody disagrees with the facts, liberals just ignore them, like you are doing.

  10. And you feel comfortable with a man who has a record of saying, and doing, things like this.

    The package closes the Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card loopholes which resulted in the shooting out in Melrose Park. We're eliminating 17 specific assault weapons. There is no reason why anybody should need an assault weapon to protect themselves or their family,' Obama said. 'We're limiting handgun sales to one a month. We're calling for handgun registration. It's very hard right now to track whether or not a felon has turned in his weapons or if he has a FOID card because we don't know how many weapons he has purchased. [Chicago Defender, 2/20/01]

    I am not in favor of concealed weapons. I think that creates a potential atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations.
    --- Pittsburg Tribune-Review (April 2, 2008).

    Obama has stated the government needs to permanently reinstate an "assault weapons" ban.
    (Obama Calls for Permanent Assault Weapons Ban to Combat Inner-City Violence, Associated Press [via Fox News] [July 15, 2007] and

    OBAMA:" Let’s be honest. Mr. Keyes does not believe in common gun control measures like the assault weapons bill. Mr. Keyes does not believe in any limits from what I can tell with respect to the possession of guns, including assault weapons that have only one purpose, to kill people. I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban. "

    Source: Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes Oct 21, 2004

    Yup, by your standards there is no pattern here whatsoever is there?

    you are either a fool, or deliberately decietful
    #130 countrygun, Nov 15, 2012
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  11. Jerry

    Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

    Liberalism/socialism is a "social disease". :therapy: Read my sig line.
  12. bados editor of PRAVDA? Spoons are a danger to fat people. Where is your logic ? It is individual responsibilty for a persons actions that count.


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