How Obama will eliminate the second amendment

Discussion in 'Gun-Control Issues' started by Grayhawk, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. Jerry

    Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member


    You are confusing fact with fiction. It's not because I don't agree. That's the fiction part. The "fact" is, The Obomination IS a socialist and he IS anti Second Amendment.

    You guess correctly. There are now more "give-mes" than those of us that love FREEDOM in this country.

    Here is where we are:

    “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt fragments of the socialistic program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing it happened.” Norman Mattoon Tomas, Socialist presidential candidate 1944

    This is just around the corner:

    "A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government it can only
    exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse
    from the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always vote
    for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury,

    with the result that a Democracy always collapses over loose fiscal
    policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the worlds
    greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have
    progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from
    spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty
    to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to
    complacency; from complacence to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from
    dependency back again into bondage." [Alexander Fraser Tyler]

    You and your ilk have reached the "dependency" stage. Guess what comes next.

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    #101 Jerry, Nov 13, 2012
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  2. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    do you deny that the obama regime will try to take away some of our gun rights?

  3. I can no more predict what Obama has in store for gun rights than I could for any other president.
    I don't have your special powers.
  4. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    ok, i will try to put this in a way so you dont have to side step the you think obama will try to attack our gun rights in the next four years?
  5. OK, I will try to put this in a way that you can understand.
    I have no way of knowing if Obama will attack our gun rights. My crystal ball is out of order.
  6. Jerry

    Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

    I don't need a crystalball. All one needs is a memory or how to use an internet searchengine. The Obaminaton said during the debate that he "SUPPORTS" an AWB. He stated he believes the Second Amendment "GRANTS" people the right to hunt. The Second says nothing and has nothing to do with hunting. And there in lies the problem with liberals... they hear, remember and REPEAT what supports there EMOTIONS. Or deny, deny, deny!!!!
  7. He's also been in office for 4 years, and we haven't seen a single piece of anti gun legislation passed.
    When he was first elected everyone predicted doom and gloom for gun rights, panic bought everything they could get their hands on, and nothing (other than high prices and shortages) came of it.
    Other (republican) presidents ushered in things like the government being able to imprison citizens without trials and tap phones without warrants, but somehow they get a pass because they are for prayer in school?
  8. Problem is, that one group calls themselves small government, then in fact they love big government, especially when they intrude on peoples personal lives. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    That is the point you are unskillfully ignoring. Small government conservative...? There is no such animal! <o:p></o:p>
    You really don't want to get into a discussion on so-called conservative morals. Don't think those exist either. However, if you need to change the subject...<o:p></o:p>
    #108 Gpruitt54, Nov 13, 2012
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  9. Agreed, this is the typical self-delusions that is hallmark of the right. They create straw men then self-righteously knock them down; then proclaim themselves victorious. It is the traveling mistrial show; smoke and mirrors, intended to entertain the ignorant rabble then claim as their base.

    This is why these kinds of distractions are created; to keep the ignorant rabble ignorant. It seems to be working perfectly.
    #109 Gpruitt54, Nov 13, 2012
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  10. And you would force everyone to watch your kids pray in school. Like there is a shortage of places to pray.
    Or how about putting images in front of public buildings?
    It's OK for you to impose your religion and "moral values" on those around you. Because yours is, no doubt, the one true religion.
  11. Jerry

    Staff Member Moderator Millennium Member

    You really are clueless aren't you? The Demorats lost MANY Congregational seats over "gun control". The Republicants lost MANY Congregational seats over "gun control". The Congress was too afraid to SEND ANY GUN CONTROL BILLS TO THE OBOMINATION. Now that he has won a second and last term he may get to seat one or two anti gun Justices. He will try to push for another AWB HE SAID HE WOULD.

    They though he would do it because of his "HISTORY". He also said he would not run again if the economy didn't improve. It didn't he ran, he got reelected. He can't run again so there is nothing to stop him from doing as much damage as possible (other than the congress) in the next four years. They didn't stop him the last time why would they this time?

    He may not get any gun control passed but it won't be for the lack of trying. Will we hear about it? Probably not! Remember his PROMISE for transparency. It brought us Obama Care, Fast and Furious and the death of an Ambassador, several Seals and assorted other good people.

    He talks you believe. Some of us look at the record. The record says he will try for some sort of gun control. The record proves he's a narcissist, socialist liar.

    :rofl: How exactly does one FORCE someone to WATCH someone pray? :dunno:

    This country was built on Christin values. Read the Constitution. ENDOWED BY the CREATOR. So now you what to put the ca-bash on the First Amendment. What part of, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" don't you comprehend. What's really funny about this is I'm not a religious man. I just happen to believer in the Constitution and FREEDOM. Exactly how does it cause harm to anyone for someone to pray or put up a religious display. Socialists want to control behavior (when it comes to religion) that cause no harm, yet they will champion pornography and degenerate behavior. The reason they hate the display of religion is because they have no morals and religion promotes morality.

    Isn't it telling how the "liberals" want to stop "religious" (Christian religion) displays while promoting the teaching of Suzy Has Two Mommies, Bobby Has Two Daddies and Islam to the children in PUBLIC schools. If you believe I'm wrong... Google is your friend.
    #111 Jerry, Nov 13, 2012
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  12. He has "More flexibility" now.
  13. Your point was better thought out, and more logical, but I really enjoyed Jerry's rant more :rofl:

    Jerry..... I don't want my taxes going to pay teachers to waste time with prayer sessions in schools. If you want your kids to pray, there is plenty of time before school, after school, and during weekends. I would have the same position if your kids wanted to interrupt class to bow to Alluh.
  14. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    springertgo, it appears that you are an obama apologist. thats o.k. if youd admit it instead of lieing and saying you need a crystal ball to tell others what you think, you are allowed to think arent you?
  15. Clutch Cargo

    Clutch Cargo Amsterdam Haze


    Methinks you should look up the DOD definition of assault weapon. They are in the business of using weapons, not the politicians. Yes, I DO OWN a real assault weapon.

    The framers of the Constitution wanted the SAME weapons in the hands of the populace as in the hands of the militia. Why are you concerned with "assault weapons" when one can kill MANY more people with an 18 wheel truck. There's millions of assault automobiles out there. Look out for that bulldozer!:wow:

    Do you propose to ban Oldsmobiles?:rofl:
  16. I'm not apologizing for Obama. He was the better of the 2 candidates.
    You sound a lot like my GF when you tell me I should know what someone is thinking or planning. You wouldn't have a twin sister, would you?
  17. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    i understand that you wont even guess at what obama might do to our gun rights....its typical of his appeasers.

    i dont need a crystal ball to think and make an educated guess as to what somebody might do based on their past.

    if you separate from the collective let us know what you think.
  18. Based on the past Obama hasn't done a thing to our gun rights.
    You must have a very powerful crystal ball.
  19. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    #119 cowboywannabe, Nov 13, 2012
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  20. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

    How about your TV - did you watch the debate where he said we need an assault weapon ban? Are you at all familiar with thye history of democrats and gun control. If YOU are a democrat, YOU support gun control and have voted for it, whether you think so or not.


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