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How Many of You REALLY Think Romney Will Win??

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Nalapombu, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. I was thrown out of my house when I was 17 years old. I am currently 23 and have been living on my own since, I am in my last semester of college studying history, without a quote, unquote "real" job.

    Trust me, I know how hard it is "out there".

    And no, I don't get my news from Colbert or Stewart, but I do think it is a good satire of the crap Fox and CNN tries to pass as news.

    I'm strongly libertarian. What is funny is that libertarians and republicans have many policy ideas that are extremely similar. But I run into the usual conservative ignorance often when people call me "liberal" because they don't understand politics beyond democrats/republicans and anything that is remotely different from conservative republicanism is "SOCIALISM!"

    But again, people have different political beliefs. You believe Mitt Romney will fix this country. I don't.
  2. Providence


    Feb 5, 2011
    Woodstock, GA
    I do not think Romney will fix this country. Not for a second. And I don't know anybody who does. We come to our support of Romney with reluctance. I do have some hope that he may do some good things, but there is a long fight ahead of us. Romney is a stop-gap to Obama. He may prove to be a good president, but he is not as far along the liberty scale as we need.

    But the fact is that Johnson is not electable and Romney is.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2012

  3. True. Very True, I agree. But if Romney does turn into another horrible administration, my conscience will be clear.
  4. With Benghazi blowing up in O's face just in time for the last debate (ironically on foreign policy), poll numbers (even with heavy Dem oversampling) cratering, news that Va,Fl,NC are being abandoned by the Dems, its Romney's now to lose.

    If he is still leading to this extent now after hundreds of millions of attack ads since spring, then even the most hardy libtard is starting to face reality.

    You can see / feel it on the Bolshevik news blogs like Salon, Daily Beast, Huffpo etc. They were triumphant all the way through Sept, now the best they do is try and spin the Benghazi disaster.

    Last edited: Oct 21, 2012
  5. pugman


    May 16, 2003
    Ironically, I like you run more with the Libertarian crowd but do not consider myself a Democrat or Republican conservative or liberal. Politicans have jedi mind tricked this entire country into believing they must "side" themselves. I have friends and coworkers who perfectly fit the sterotypes of Liberal or Conservative. One liberal coworker has stated she would readily hand over her children's future of freedom, the ability to try and make it on their own and potentially fail and all that goes with it for a life of government provided food, shelter, education, etc.

    If you run with the Libertarian crowd and a Republican calls you a Liberal - ask them what they think the definition means? My brother, who is the very scary type of hard line Republican who on the one had believes in an absolutely free economy but in the other believes in lining certain "unworthy" types up against a wall and shooting them, called me a Fascist one time. I laid into him and asked him what the word meant and he stumbled and retreated like the French. It was a word he heard one time while listening to Rush and he couldn't define it. Anyone who knows me would know the last thing I am is a Fascist. When they try and pigeon hole me I clearly state I'm a "free economy, limited government Libertarian with streaks of Centrism and Anarchism." Believe me, the "siding crowd" never knows how to respond and eventually falls into the "your crazy" camp. Generally speaking, in my AO registered Democrats and Republicans alike are so brainwashed any common sense views are labeled "nut job."

    Romney is not the answer this country needs but he is a small step in the right direction. Voting third party would make me feel all warm and fuzzy knowing I voted my conscious but in the end this conscious doesn't pay the bill. An O win simply means the freight train dead end happens sooner.

    Stick to your guns...the ways things are going...soon enough this won't be a saying anyway.

  6. At 23 you don't know **** about life.
  7. kirgi08

    kirgi08 Watcher. Silver Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Acme proving grounds.
  8. Trew2Life

    Trew2Life #intheflesh

    Aug 31, 2012
    terra nullius
    One mans economic downturn is another mans prosperity. Yes. It was so depressing to see Wall Street set record breaking profits the last 4 years. It was so endearing to see Dem's and Rep's, working together to pass a Jobs bill.

    If you lose your house and job it won't be because of Obama. It will be because you, your employer and local elected officials have dediced to cut of your nose to spite your face.

    Although preserving a womans right to privacy (a.k.a., abortion) isn't my major point, it is of great concern to me. I am more concerned with Women's Rights, in general, which I see being threatend by conservative agenda's. Agenda's I believe Mitt Romney will wholely support.

    My economics are fine. My job is secure. All I've got left are my daughters and grandgirls. You do what you gotta do.
  9. kirgi08

    kirgi08 Watcher. Silver Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Acme proving grounds.
  10. Little Joe

    Little Joe

    Dec 28, 2007
    At The Ready
    Yep, and what he did to straighten out the 2002 Winter Olympics demonstrates that, too.
  11. mac66

    mac66 Huge Member Millennium Member

    Oct 28, 1999
    Blue Planet
    Romney will take it.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2012
  12. jakebrake

    jakebrake cracker

    Jan 11, 2011
    too close to philly
    i don't see it being that high. 5 maybe. 7 is a tad much after the fraud is thrown in.
  13. series1811

    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

    So you are doing fine financially, so you're not really concerned about anyone else? I thought liberals were supposed to have compassion for others in not so fortunate situations.

    I'm doing okay, too. But, I do worry about other people who aren't. We nutjobs call that empathy.

    (I'll bet next election, you ask for a better bulletin board as your assignment, right? "What the hell is a 'Glock' anyway, and why would they talk about it?").
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2012
  14. G29Reload

    G29Reload Tread Lightly

    Sep 28, 2009
    As it stands now, Obama wins with 277 in the electoral college.

    However, that is predicated on his taking Ohio.

    It comes down to OH, Zero has it by only a point.

    So, as usual, It's Ohio, Ohio and Ohio.

    and it comes down to turnout.

    The momentum is Romney's, if he keeps it moving,

    I believe its Romney's and he will win.

    Undecideds usually break for the challenger by 2-1, but there's little of those. Polarized electorate.

    IA is the next closest, less than three points.

    WI is also do-able, as is PA.

    Romney has to keep shoring up VA. I helped in early voting. :supergrin:
  15. G29Reload

    G29Reload Tread Lightly

    Sep 28, 2009
    Yes it will.

    The terror of Obamacare has kept business from hiring. With options for repeal diminishing to Romney's election with a Republican Senate, the path to abuse widens as businesses in order to survive are now laying off FT employees and replacing with PT in order to stay under mandatory thresholds.

    Getting.Worse. And yes its all his fault.

    The biggest load of horsesheet to ever come down the pike. The Dem's phony war on women. As if the day Romney gets sworn in, all pharmacies will be padlocked.

    There is no "blocking access to" women's healthcare. There's just the desire not to pay for consumablesÂ…if its a choice, you pay for your choice. Not government.

    In the end, the President has very little to do with topic of abortion. It's local statutes, state laws and the Supreme Court.

    There is no anti-woman agenda. Its a chimera, a red herring that is a complete falsehood, invented out of whole cloth by the dems. A phonier issue there never was.

    How did women suffer under Geo W Bush?
    How did women suffer under Reagan?
    How did women suffer under Bush 41?

    Answer to all? They didn't. And none of those were ever accused of rape, like Bill Clinton, or invited supporters up to their hotel room and propositioned them, like Bill Clinton, or created a hostile work environment after playing with the help. Like Clinton.

    Nor were any women under paid by 18% like in the Obama administration, or fled the premises due to abuse like Christina Romer did after leaving the Obama White House.

    And to think statist, leftists like you are the first one to scream "Selfish!" when Republicans balk at spending on social welfare or raising taxes to pay for Leftist squander.

    Epic hypocrisy.:upeyes:
  16. TheExplorer


    Apr 16, 2012
    It will be close, but Obama will win. I see plenty of Romney stickers on expensive cars, but none on cheaper ones. Vice versa for Obama stickers. And there are a lot more people without money than with.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2012
  17. mgs

    mgs Always Carrying Millennium Member

    Dec 21, 1998
    cogan station, pa, usa
    I was just with Dick Morris....PA will go Romney! Landslide coming!
  18. G29Reload

    G29Reload Tread Lightly

    Sep 28, 2009
    I see Obama stickers on Priuses more than any other.

    Nothing says bag o ****** like an Obama sticker on a Prius.
  19. mac66

    mac66 Huge Member Millennium Member

    Oct 28, 1999
    Blue Planet
    For those of you who weren't around or were too young to remember, what is happening now is what happened in the 1980 election.

    Some background...

    Carter beat Ford in 1976 primarily because Ford was named by Nixon to succeed him when he resigned. Ford pardoned Nixon (and draft dodgers who went to Canada). People were tired of the Nixon years and did not trust Republicans after Watergate.

    Carter promised to change government. Kind of that hope and change thing. Unfortunately for Carter, his administration didn't do much during the recession of that time. He blamed everything on Ford and Nixon. He was weak on the economy and on foreign policy. Oh, yeah there was that Iran hostage thing that he did little about.

    Reagan was vilified as "just an actor" everything he said and did was criticized by the media and even other republicans. He was "opportunist, liar, RINO. He was criticized for his stand on gun control as governor, etc, etc." Yet he continued to gain support throughout the fall. As much as the media and democrats wanted to believe in Jimmy Carter, they couldn't change the fact that Carter was a bad president. Many democrats switched their votes, the so called "Reagan democrats".

    I remember watching the news on the night of the 1980 election (we only had CBS, NBC and ABC back then, no cable, no internet). Dan Rather was practically in tears when the numbers started coming in for Reagan.

    Reagan came in and we had 8 years of prosperity, actually the best years that I can remember. He had his faults and did some questionable things but he turned the country around.

    Obama came in because people were tired of Bush's administration. They were tired of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They were tired of the bad economy.

    Obama's policies (whatever they may be) have failed. People are tired of the talk. I know many democrats who will not vote against him, but won't vote this time at all. Nearly everybody I know who voted for Obama last time is switching this time to someone else, usually Romney.

    I know lots of libertarians who are holding their noses this time and voting for Romney cause they think another 4 years of Obama would be dangerous.

    If I am not mistaken, Reagan's numbers at this point were worse than Romney's are now so I tend to think that Romney is going to win.
  20. Cole125

    Cole125 Silver Member

    Apr 5, 2008
    Far West, USA
    Votes don't matter if the elitists want Obama to be their puppet, he will be.

    They do, and he will, so the best thing everyone can do is join the NRA if they have not already.