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How EXACTLY did Hamas SEE this going?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by tslex, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. tslex


    Aug 1, 2002
    Here's what I do not get: How EXACTLY did Hamas see this going? When the leadership sat around over glasses of tea and said, "Yeah, let's lob many hundreds of missiles randomly into Israeli residential neighborhoods because . . . " what was the next part of that sentence? Was it ". . . because the Israelis, ya know, might all just pack up and leave."? Was it ". . . because, you know those Israelis, they won't do jack to retaliate."? Was it ANY version of " . . . because ultimately raining down random missiles on Israel will get us a result we want and not, ya know, annihilated."?

    Sure, predictably, Israel is being criticized by the usual suspects (Egypt, Russia, the BBC) for the nature of its response. But did the Hamas guys think "Yeah! That'll teach 'em. Those Israelis HATE to be the target of international criticism."?
  2. .264 magnum

    .264 magnum CLM

    Dec 5, 2002
    Dallas TX

    I will say that some of the usual suspects have, for maybe the first time in recent memory, placed more blame on Hamas.

    This kind of thing is literally irrational.

  3. Psychman

    Psychman NRA Life Member

    Mar 23, 2009
    Long Beach California.
    I think they want a more involved war where the rest of the Muslim world comes to their defense. It is the "we are the little guys being picked on by the big guys" syndrome.
  4. TK-421


    Oct 12, 2012
    Pflugerville, TX
    This kind of scene always amuses me. "Lets rain down missiles on random houses over the border." "Wait! What?! What the hell do you mean they're retaliating? They have NO justification for retaliation, we haven't done anything wrong!"

    LASTRESORT20 LongTerm-Guy

    Aug 10, 2010
    "How EXACTLY did Hamas SEE this going"

    `They are to stupid to know how anything will end up....they only have an end game.

    Isreal is not worried about what ignorant muslim terroist think or feel `anymore`...Isreal wants to survive...They are "learning" that appeasement and Political correctness (talking) with roaches Never works.......They need to get serious and get it done....enough of the BS terrorists rockets being fired at them indiscriminately....Time to get to work and take care of the whole problem and finish the job.
  6. airmotive

    airmotive Tin Kicker

    Nov 19, 2007
    Debris Field
    Ever watch a World Cup soccer match between, say...Germany (powerhouse) and Moldova (notsomuch)?

  7. kirgi08

    kirgi08 Watcher. Silver Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Acme proving grounds.
    They figured the one would support them.'08.
  8. Baba Louie

    Baba Louie

    Sep 6, 2001
    What with the new Egyptian Prime Minister there visiting w/ Hamas leader whats his name for the day and all. They even went to a hospital and saw children who were cruelly maimed and/or killed by the Israeli counter offerings.

    WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? (it's on cuz?) :dunno:
  9. HerrGlock

    HerrGlock Scouts Out CLM

    Dec 28, 2000
    Now that the US won't back Israel, what do they have to lose?
  10. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

    Jan 16, 2005

    How they see it going is that they provoke a reaction from the Israelies that can be used to draw other muslim countires into war against them, make things hard on the US, etc.
  11. Psychman

    Psychman NRA Life Member

    Mar 23, 2009
    Long Beach California.
    And to think that over 60 percent of US Jews voted for Obama again. Unbelievable.
  12. aplcr0331

    aplcr0331 (Not so)Fett Svensk

    Jan 20, 2002
    Inland Northwest
    Anyone but the goyum in their eyes is a-ok.
  13. czsmithGT


    Jan 8, 2004
    PHOTO: Hamas missile launch pad next to mosque, playground. Civilian factories, gas station also half a block from Fajr-5 firing site.
  14. tslex


    Aug 1, 2002
    Likely true, Bren. Perhaps the only explanation that makes "sense."

    But you have to wonder if they have noticed that . . .

    . . . the Egyptian military is unlikely to let itself be broken in a new war with Israel, even if the Muslim Brotherhood "leaders" in Egypt were to say they should. (Especially since lost of senior Egyptian Army officers have spent the past 25 years or so harrying, arresting, torturing and disappearing MB leaders.)

    . . . the Syrians are busy with a civil war.

    . . . the Jordanians have been a US ally and de facto GWOT partner for years. (And more to the point REALLY don't want a new wave of Palestinian refugees.)

    . . . Iraq has no meaningful army, let alone any cohesive political will.

    . . . the Gulf states all seem to be too busy making money and building indoor ski resorts.

    I suppose the idea might be to draw Iran in, but Iran is ALREADY in. Many (most?) of the recent spate of missiles are being launched by Islamic Jihad, essentially a client/proxy of Iran. Perhaps the idea is to distract the Israelis so they forget to bomb the centrifuges? Seems like a poor plan.
  15. If Hamas thinks that Egypt is now more inclined to go to war against Israel since the political changes they are just wrong. The leaders in Egypt don't want to get into a very bloody shooting war, especially during their first year. Just MHO.
  16. Why do you think the US won't back Israel? Obama has made it clear that the US will. Our policy toward Israel Hasn't changed.
  17. kirgi08

    kirgi08 Watcher. Silver Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Acme proving grounds.
    You believe him.'08. :faint:
  18. janice6

    janice6 Silver Member

    Apr 4, 2006
    Children: "But, he hit me back first".
  19. JW1178


    Jul 17, 2009
    They think the rest of the arab world will jump in for them. They tried that once before, and that was 6 days of hell for them. So I figure they love the sympathy I guess.
  20. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    Jan 26, 2001
    hamas raises their kids to die. the outcome of their attack was of no concern to them.