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How accurate are rifled slugs out of a smooth bore barrel?

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by Thrillhouse700, Feb 5, 2010.


  1. Thrillhouse700

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    I have a bunch of rifled slugs for my shotgun, shot a few out of my 18.5" and 28". Could never really judge the accuracy due to having just a bead sight. Not to mention I only really ever shoot clays with the gun. So what kind of accuracy could one expect out of a rifled slug? Would it be enough to put a cheapo red dot on the shotgun just to mess around with? Seeing as how I can't afford a nice set of sights right now.
     

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    That's a good topic and am interested myself with those that have first hand experience. What little experience that I've had is that with front bead alone, I shoot a little high and to the left at about 30 yards. I just put on a Pentax Red Dot, but have not yet had a chance to shoot it. I have done a bore sight on the scope and expect to have to tweak for my shooting.

    I would really like to know about the 50 - 100 yard range.

    I do know that after shooting about 5-rounds I'm ready to quit for I am swearing at every round, but it's a feel good hurt if you know what I mean.
     

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    it depends a bit both on the barrel and the slug. we have done alot of slug shooting out of smoothbores around here over the years and the lack of good sights or scopes has always been the limiting factor. that and the fact that most people can't shoot those hard kicking guns without flinching. most guns are capable of staying on a playing card at 75 yds, some at 100. i have also had my 870 touching at 75 with rifle sights and rottweil [brenneke] slugs. with optics you can at least expect the playing card at 75.
     
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    Depends on the shotgun and ammo. If they match up well it should get 2 to 3 inches for two shots at 100 yards. If they do not match well they will be all over the place.
     
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    hmmm ok, im not worried much of recoil. I have the spec ops stock and have put about 10 slugs through it and it does not hurt anymore. The accuracy is my only thing. Not sure if I should get a red dot and play with it or just stick to shooting clays.
     
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    I have done a little playing around with an 870 Express 18.5" smooth bore lately. I don't have any targets available to post at the present time, but will the next time I get out. I have no doubt I can defend myself with this rig and slugs out to 75 yards. The last shooting I did was with Brenneke KO slugs,and Remmy Express Wally World stuff five at a time. I was shooting 5" groups,center left and right, and just a little low with the KOs. This was off the corner of the truck bed at 50 yds and a bead sight. The Remmy Sluggers were actually a little better believe it or not,and not low. I considered mounting ghost rings on her,but like the snag free smooooth lines of a plain barrel :cool:. I would be more apt to have the trigger cleaned up than anything.
     
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    You can end threats against you at 100 yards with any sight. Practice.
     
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    Four Sellior & Bellot slugs at 30 yards, from a Saiga 12.

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    The big full bore slugs like these really run out of steam past 150 yards, and a good shooter with a good gun and ammo can reach out to that maximum effective range.
     
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    I have a mossberg model 5500 semi-auto thats 15 yrs old 12 ga
    It was cut down to 18.5 from 26 inches, ergo no choke
    With a bead sight that really only works from 25 yrds or less I can put every shot on a man sized target. After all any hit with a slug is almost a game ender
    Use low recoil 00 buck shot and low recoil RIFLED slugs.This is a basic look,anything you want to add .optics etc... will enhance your situation . regards
     
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    Using my 590 with factory ghost rings on a 20 inch improved cylinder barrel I can put 5 for 5 inside of a six inch circle at 100 yards using Federal Hydra Shok Sabot Slugs. Certainly not rifle accuracy, but not bad. I know, I know, sabots are for rifled barrels and they do perform much better with a twist, but I have been very impressed with Hydra Shok Sabots out of smooth bore.
     
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    It mostly depends on the ammo you're using, and also the gun/barrel. You could expect great accuracy when using brenneke slugs out of a barrel 20+ inches at 50-75 yards with ghost ring. You could still expect decent accuracy out to 100 yards, really though practice is the key. Not saying practice will make an unaccurate gun accurate, but you will learn where to place the sights when shooting. As for the "cheap" red dot. I would highly recommend you save more money and buy a quality one, because in the end, you WILL be buying another after the "cheap" one breaks and end up spending more than you would have with a single good one. Buckshot and birdshot alone is enough to shatter or break the internals and/or window of a cheap red dot. Slugs will demolish them. Trust me Ive seen it happen the first day, lol.
     
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    Well said Devin, I agree 110%
     
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    With a dedicated slug barrel, a 4x scope and a good rest......... 2-3" groups at 100 yards are very doable.
     
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    What does a dedicated slug barrel mean; a rifled barrel? The topic is smooth bore, and if that is your intention then why dedicated? Sorry, don't mean to be sarcastic, but I'm confused. :dunno:
     
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    That there is a good group...I don't care who you are! :wow:
     
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    There are "dedicated slug barrels" for a variety of makes of shotguns. Yes, they do have rifling in them. However, I wasn't "arguing", I was just saying!!!!:upeyes:

    Even with a smoothbore barrel, with the right ammo, scope and rest; those kind of groups are still quite doable. Maybe not quite as easily, but doable.
     
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    yeah devin you are correct on the red dot. I am using a mossy 500 with 18.5" and or 28" and wally world remmy slugs. Just wasn't sure if it was worth it shooting this at the range. I think next time I go I will probably take her out and give it a go. Maybe I will have a decent sight by then.

    Basically with the spec ops stock it makes me dip my head down lower to line up the bead. So was wondering if it was worth it or not to red dot it to bring the sight picture up when shooting slugs. Thanks for the replies guys.

    Now any suggestion on a decent red dot? Or possibly a scope?

    Would I look like a noob with a scope on a shotgun at the range? I have never seen anyone with a scope at the range I go to.
     
  18. Devin459

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    I would try something like a Hakko red dot.
     
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    Red dots and scopes are pretty common on shot guns now. They have gottenvery popular with turkey hunting, and a lot of people deer hunt with shotguns and slugs.

    I have had great luck with a BSA red dot from Bass Pro on my shotgun. I've got a FN Police Tactical Shotgun with a 18" barrel and collapsible stock. Probably put 200-300 3" slugs and 000 buck through it and the scope still works perfectly, and holds it's zero. As far as accuracy I can shoot a 3" group at 100 yards, and about a 1" group at 50 yards with remington rifled slugs and shooting from prone or a bench.

    Shotguns aren't precision weapons in my opinion. So I wouldn't worry about spending bug bucks on high end slugs. The remingtons, winchesters, and such will shoot good enough groups for hunting and self defense. Meaning any slug made by a reputable ammunition manufacturer will shoot 3-4 MOA.
     
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    There all also smooth bore slugs specifically designed for use in smooth bore shotguns. Federal TruBall slugs come to mind.