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Hornady Critical Duty

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by UtahBassKicker, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. Stlbrian

    Stlbrian

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    According to the manufacturer critical duty is designed to operate in a full sized handgun.

    Critical defense meanwhile is specifically designed for shorter barreled CCW style weapons, such as the G23 that you and I carry.

    http://www.hornady.com/support/critical-duty-and-critical-defense

    I took the word of the folks that make the round and settled on the critical defense for mine.
     
  2. FLIPPER 348

    FLIPPER 348 Happy Member

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    ....only you seem to be arguing
     


  3. jhc37013

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    I was very excited to find two boxes at a LGS and shot all of them through my G30SF and XDs. I don't know how they do in gelatin and don't care because the round was very snappy, recoil never bothered me until I tried this round and follow up shots came slow, best word I can describe this round is violent. I did not expect that and not sure why it's like that because the specs are on par with other +p ammo, I guess specs never tell it all.

    I will stick with PDX1 and TAP FPD.
     
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  4. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

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    That's right. The 9x19 round took decades to be acceptable, and only one failure to make it obsolete (The great Miami shootout)
     
  5. hunter 111

    hunter 111

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    You are unbelievable

    this ammo is good stuff
     
  6. hunter 111

    hunter 111

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    you can stick with mild stuff

    violent recoil = effective === simple physics
     
  7. j3k

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    Underwood ammo is a better choice IMO. It is more likely to open up on a living organism. The extra velocity and higher energy will most likely create more trauma. It's cheaper too. Buffalo bore has a bonded version as well if that's important to you.
     
  8. Dalton Wayne

    Dalton Wayne Epic mustache Millennium Member

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    I carry the hornady Z-max Zombie round :rofl: which I believe is the same round with a green tip instead of red works great in my Glock 27
     
  9. happyguy

    happyguy Man, I'm Pretty

    I carry 9BPLE in my P7 but it doesn't matter for squat unless I put them where they need to go.

    Regards,
    Happyguy :)
     
    Last edited: May 10, 2014
  10. My guess is if you find yourself in an SD situation and have to depend on the Critical Duty to stop the threat, it will perform just fine.
     
  11. Those 9BPLE must heat up that P7 quick! :wow:
     
  12. happyguy

    happyguy Man, I'm Pretty

    It's usually time to take a break after about 50 rounds or so, but when I go to the range I'm usually shooting the 115 grain FMJ stuff.

    Shooting the cheap stuff I can go about 100 rounds before I have to be careful where I place my trigger finger.

    Personally I find it a good check that keeps me from turning a practice session into a blasting session. The break helps me to keep the reason I went to the range in focus.

    Regards,
    Happyguy :)
     
  13. happyguy

    happyguy Man, I'm Pretty

    The Shield is rated for SAAMI spec ammo and it was designed around the .40 S&W so I think it is probably a pretty robust design.

    Having said that, I have seen some pictures on the internet with fired cases that had some interesting bulges reminiscent of the early Glock .40's, but fired from Shield 9's and 40's. I think there may be some chamber issues with individual guns.

    I have shot a little +P+ 9BPLE out of mine and it functioned normally and the cases looked fine. The cases from my .40 looked fine also. That is why I think it may only be a problem with individual guns. Maybe Smith had a run of bad barrels in both calibers?

    Regards,
    Happyguy :)
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2014
  14. unit1069

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    I recall reading some threads about .40S&W Shield models blowing up but none about the 9mm version. Does the 9mm Shield manual state it's okay to shoot +P ammo or does it caution against it?
     
  15. happyguy

    happyguy Man, I'm Pretty

    The Shield manual states that all SAAMI spec ammo is OK, but that use of +P ammo may require more frequent service.

    Regards,
    Happyguy :)
     
  16. Just call the Albuquerque, NM police department and ask them what they use (although they don't recommend one shot stops).
     
  17. Garweh

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    I carry Hornady CDuty in my P938. Had a chance to use it in a "bullets on vehicles" class at Sig Sauer Academy last weekend. Was the only self-defense round that would penetrate windshield and carry on a straight trajectory when shot from both inside and outside car. Very impressive.

    CDuty is a bonded round meant to penetrate obstacles. CDefense is not meant for duty carry.
     
  18. hunter won

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    I have used the non +P in my Kahr PM9 and would rely on the +P version. The 10 mm Critical Duty is very anemic.
    The bullet is probably not designed for high velocity.
     
  19. WinterWizard

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    I was referring to hollow point designs, but I agree, even if you were being sarcastic.
     
  20. unit1069

    unit1069

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    There's a SAAMI standard for 9mm but none for "+P" ammo advertised for .40S&W as far as I know.

    My reading of various forums didn't indicate anyone complaining about the 9mm Shield blowing up but have read more than a few about the .40S&W Shield doing that with hyped ammo.