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Home Made Sub2000 Stock pad and recoil buffer

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by toshbar, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. toshbar

    toshbar Timber Baron

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    I wanted a stock pad and recoil buffer for my new .40sw Kel-Tec Sub 2000.

    So after a brainstorm last night I went to Lowes today and bought a foot of 1" ID/1 3/8" OD Dishwasher discharge hose. I bought it on the way to the range so I waited until tonight to fab it up.

    Here's how it turned out.

    Tubing and Tools
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    Rough cutout for the charging handle
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    Fitted over the stock tube
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  2. toshbar

    toshbar Timber Baron

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    Then I made the recoil buffer out of some scrap

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    It fits into the stock tube in front of the plastic end piece and the bolt assembly hits this rubber instead of hitting the plastic stock cap or the charging handle hitting the back of the cutout in the stock tube.
    This shows how it goes in. when seated, it is about an inch into the tube and is easily removed by pushing it out with the bolt.

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    This is how far back the bolt goes before hitting the tube. About 1/4" before it did before. I can cut the buffer to all different widths very easily.
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    I haven't tested it yet, so I may need to modify the buffer and make it go around the spring more, or make two halves, or possibly just get some 1" OD tubing and cut it to length to slide in there. I may make a few different width ones to see which one works best. With the one in there now, the bolt will lock back, but it takes some force to compress my buffer so the charging handle can rotate enough to lock into the slot.

    I still have half of the tubing left over so I could redo it and try to get some cleaner cuts, but I think this will work well for now. Cheek weld is a lot more comfortable and noticeably more grippy.


    Total cost was $2.88. [​IMG]

    Feel free to ask questions or add suggestions.
     

    Last edited: Jan 16, 2012

  3. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    Very innovative,.......let us know how it performs!
     
  4. Good thinking.

    I went a different route. I bought a sheet of self-adhesive neoprene (sold in the archery section for bow grips) and cut a piece to fit the tube. Plenty left for a second "pad" should this one wear out.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. BL33D 4 M3

    BL33D 4 M3 SDMF

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    You can use the little rubber washers for garden hoses for the buffer also.
     
  6. toshbar

    toshbar Timber Baron

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    This was my original plan but then I had the idea to have the charging handle hit the rubber that wraps around the rear of the stock tube. When I had a small section leftover my design morphed.

    I made another buffer about twice as deep as the one pictured that totally wraps around the spring.

    I'll update when I get a chance to test it.
     
  7. toshbar

    toshbar Timber Baron

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    Update on this whole thing:

    Both parts work very well. I am very pleased with my $3/1 hour investment into it. The pad does raise your cheek a bit and my head has to rotate a little more than normal to center my eye in the rear aperture, but it is very doable. I did back to back testing with and without the bolt buffer, and it does reduce the impulse of the recoil. It is more of a movement back into the shoulder than a complete shock loading and snap that it was before.
     
  8. mdsn969

    mdsn969

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    Nice job toshbar...

    I just love my subbie as well!!!

    Here is the recoil buffer that I made for my subbie...
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    Another shot of the recoil buffer
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    Here is a bad pic of my 9mm G17 subbie...
    Tube cover
    Charging handle cover
    Red Lion front sight
    Stock extension
    Kel-Tec Picatinny rail
    NCStar laser (works ok, got it for nearly nothing)
    Home made recoil buffer
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    I tried it out today and was very happy with it. I machined the buffer out of 90A urethane...
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2012
  9. failsafe

    failsafe

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    As far as a butt stock recoil pad, I added this to my 1" extension...

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    Held on by 2 screws for easy removal..
     
  10. mdsn969

    mdsn969

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    Nice, I could also use the extra extension...
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2012
  11. toshbar

    toshbar Timber Baron

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    :mememe: Wanna elaborate on that blue cable and the thing coming from the handguard vent?
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2012
  12. Cmacc

    Cmacc

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    And that one comes in just about every color or pattern a fella could imagine.
     
  13. mdsn969

    mdsn969

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    As long as your wife does not beat you with what is left of it :rofl:
     
  14. failsafe

    failsafe

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    The blue "thing" is a coated cable for a sling point..The black "thing" is a cable tie for another sling point on the forearm..Cheap but effective...

    Maybe these older pic might explain..Woops , replaced the rear cable tie with the coated cable..


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    Last edited: Feb 3, 2012
  15. JackDRipper

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  16. Metal Angel

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    I have never shot one of these, but I'm definitely interested... I'm just wondering why you need a recoil pad for shooting a pistol cartridge out of a rifle? Seems like these things wouldn't recoil much more than a 10/22.
     
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2012