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HK45 or Sig 220?

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by sharpshooter, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Member Millennium Member

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    HK45 or Sig 220? I'm considering a new 45, not a Glock or 1911. Probably LEM on the HK because I don't like safties. Maybe the compact version of each, but probably full size. Anyone have input? I have several Sigs but I've never shot a HK.
     
  2. bac1023

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    I'd go with the HK.

    I'm not big on the new production Sigs.
     


  3. seanmac45

    seanmac45 CLM

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    HK45 or HK45C running away with it. As Brian said SIG is not doing well.
     
  4. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

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    I love my P220. Its a newer production made in 2010 and it has proved to be a very reliable gun after several thousand rounds.
     
  5. jwhite75

    jwhite75 Gubmint Worker

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    The 220 is the better of those two guns.

    That being said go for the HK45 not the USP
     
  6. ballr4lyf

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    I loved my USP 45! That being said I've shot the 220 as well, and the trigger was definitely much better. YMV.
     
  7. NEOH212

    NEOH212 Diesel Girl

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    HK 45 all the way.

    I will be honest, it's almost a toss up with these two. They are both really fantastic guns! I love the trigger on my Sig 220 combat. I will say though that I was really impressed with the trigger on my HK 45. It's the best trigger I have ever had on a factory HK. Although still not as good as a Sig trigger, it's pretty darn good. The Sigs are a robust gun by nature but the HK takes the cake here.

    Go with the HK!


    (Either way, your getting a great gun that will serve you for many years to come and best of all, you won't have to regret your purchase!)

    :wavey:
     
  8. Wyoming

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    I sold my SIG 220 but not because it was a bad gun. I'm left handed and when I tried to do serious fast shooting my middle finger would bump the magazine release just enough to drop the magazine down so the next round wouldn't feed! I was a problem that couldn't be fixed.

    BTW, it is that frame size. I don't have that problem with my SIG 228, 226 or P6
     
  9. matt_lowry123

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    I've had a sig 220. It was nice, but I kept the hk!!
     
  10. Hard call.......I have owned at least 3 HK USP45C's over the years.....I want a HK45C, but I do own a current production Sig 220 Carry with the SRT trigger system in it and will find it hard to part with that pistol any time soon.
     
  11. cowboy1964

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    I'm getting interested in a Sig P220 Carry SAO. It's heavier than I would like though. The HK45C is also at the top of my list.

    Tough call. Comes down to metal vs polymer and trigger type, IMO.

    Don't worry about the "Sig's are crap now" BS.
     
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  12. barth

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    My strong advice is to rent/borrow a HK before you buy.
    The only time I bought without shooting first was a HK USP 45 Compact.
    Just holding it felt fine, so I spent $800+ on one.
    Couldn't hit the side of a barn.
    Hated it with a fiery passion.
    Sold it as fast as I could.

    HKs are fine guns, I just don't shoot them well.
    Same with Beretta.
    It's an ergonomics thingy.

    I have seven handguns, three revolvers and four auto-loaders.
    Shoot all of them very well.
    Sig Sauer P220/45
    Sig Sauer P239/357
    Kahr MK40 Elite/40
    Glock G27/40
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  13. HAMMERHEAD

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    Never shot the LEM version, but the HK45 is a fantastic gun.
    Older P220's are nice, but the HK's are more reliable IME.
     
  14. deeHKman

    deeHKman "It Is Written"

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    I have a couple HK45c's. The 220 is or was carried by the City Of Greenville, SC police. They were trying last summer to get rid of them. Too many problem's to keep them running!! The County ~500 Officer's carry a Glock 21sf. I know several and no problem's with reliability and they like more capacity over the Sig.

    HK over any newer Sig anyday...Mine are all TDA's but i hear the light LEM is a great trigger system...
     
  15. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

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    I have seen firsthand how LEO's can abuse a gun. My agency issues P226s and some of the guys I work with dont grasp basic maintenance. Its not just guns either, the same guys with rusty, under lubed Sigs, have rusty handcuffs and unpolished boots.

    I am a Sig fan and have no problem properly maintaining my weapon, but the longer I work in LE the more I believe than individual officers should choose their own weapons.

    Most guys who wont take proper care of a gun will choose a glock or some similar low maintenance weapon.

    If given the choice my #1 duty gun would be my Sig P220.

    Also, Glocks can take a little more abuse, but I have seen some seriously neglected Glocks in LE holsters.

    At the academy I saw more problems with Glocks than any other guns. The main response was, "they told me Glocks dont need to be cleaned". Rookies with no experience were handed a Glock that hadn't had the chamber scrubbed or rails lubed in years, and didn't understand why it jammed at the quals.
     
  16. The Retired Sarge

    The Retired Sarge "The Sarge"

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    I own 13 SIG Sauer pistols, including two 220s and love them. They are fine weapons. But I recommend getting the HK with no second thoughts. No Compromise. Bill
     
  17. I own a P220R and an HK45c. I EDC the HK45c the 220 is for HD. It'd be tough if I had to choose one. I'd say my 220 handles the recoil noticeably better but the HK is lighter and easier for me to carry. At the end of the day I wouldn't trade my HK45c for anything
     
  18. Swamprattler

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    I have had both. I would get the HK45. Actually, I would get the HK45c. Both HK's are great guns, but for me, the HK45c is easier to conceal and slightly quicker follow-up shots.