i'am new here. ive been looking to this forum for almost 6 months now and i find all members and threads really helpful. i shoot before way back 80's colt days =) now im here again considering to purchase a new pistol for plinking and shooting in the future. i'am considering g17, g19 or hk's (but prices are high) i already check mcs twinpines all glock models they are still selling glocks @ gunshow price glock 17 (black) P34,080 only if you pay in cash they give you extra P2000 off so P32,080 for a new glock Wanna kill these ads? We can help!