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Here are official gelatin results for all of the DoubleTap loads!

Discussion in 'The 10 Ring' started by MCNETT, Jan 27, 2005.

  1. MCNETT

    MCNETT Load Developer Lifetime Member

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    Pressure testing and loading!
    All of these tests were done using 10% ballistic gelatin provided by Vyse gelatin using all FBI protocols and 4 layers of denim and two layers of light cotton T-shirt in front of the gelatin.

    DoubleTap 9mm+P
    115gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1415fps - 12.00" / .70"
    124gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1310fps - 13.25" / .70"
    147gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1125fps - 14.00" / .66"

    DoubleTap .40 S&W Penetration / expansion
    135gr. Nosler JHP @ 1375fps - 12.10" / .72"
    155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1275fps - 13.00" / .76"
    165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1200fps - 14.0" / .70"
    180gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1100fps - 14.75" / .68"
    200gr XTP @ 1050fps - 17.75" / .59"


    DoubleTap .357 Sig
    115gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1550fps - 12.25" / .71"
    125gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1450fps - 14.5" / .66"
    147gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1250fps - 14.75" / .73"

    DoubleTap .357 Magnum
    125gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1600fps - 12.75" / .69"
    158gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 19.0" .56"

    DoubleTap 10mm
    135gr JHP @ 1600fps - 11.0" / .70" frag nasty
    155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1475fps - 13.5" / .88"
    165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 14.25" / 1.02"
    165gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1425fps - 14.75" / .82"
    180gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1330fps - 16.0" / .85"
    180gr XTP @ 1350fps – 17.25” / .77”
    180gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1300fps - 15.25" / .96"
    200gr XTP @ 1250fps - 19.5" / .72"
    230gr Equalizer @ 1040fps - 11.0" and 17.0" / .62" and .40"

    DoubleTap .45ACP
    185gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1225fps - 12.75" / .82"
    200gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1125fps - 14.25" / .88"
    230gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1010fps - 15.25" / .95"

    DoubleTap 9X25
    115gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1800fps - 10.0" / .64" frag nasty
    125gr Gold DOt JHP @ 1725fps - 15.0" / .74"
    147gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1550fps - 17.5" / .68"

    For those who are asking, here it is!
    -Mike
     
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    hollow10mm cold,dead,hands

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    now if iam shooting the 10mm loads like the 165 grain gold dot out of the g-29 can i expect a little less expansion and a little more penitration? is that the norm?
     

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    Good stuff, Mike!

    Quick question--are you still planning some .450SMC (aka .45 Super) loads? They would be sweet out of my S&W 625.
     
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    Mike: GREAT information and a big "thank you" for all the time and work you put into producing it! ;c

    Tazz10mm: I'd ask that this thread get a sticky pronto, since it contains answers to penetration & expansion questions that get asked regularly here and on Caliber Corner about Double Tap Ammo, in particular the 10mm loads.

    Plus, because Mike used the scientifically-accepted test media for developing the penetration & expansion data on DT 10mm ammo, it secondarily provides valid documentation pertaining to the issue of "overpenetration" when using DT's full-power 10mm HPs - those specifically designed and intended for defensive use against human assailants (i.e., the Nosler, Golden Saber and Gold Dot HP loads).

    Thanks again, Mike! :cool:
     
  5. MCNETT

    MCNETT Load Developer Lifetime Member

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    From a G29 the 165gr GSHP went 15.0" and showed expansion to .84" The petals were folded further back on the bullet fired from the G20.
    -Mike
     
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    kestrou Pin Member #4

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    Excellent! ;f

    kestrou
     
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    hollow10mm cold,dead,hands

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    so would the 165 GD expand to like 1.0 and penitrate a little farther out of a g-29? i think iam gonna have to go with 165 GD.

    i vote for sticky as everyone always wants this info.
     
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    Information much appreciated. Those results are better than I expected and why I carry your 10mm ammo on-duty.
     
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    Mike, do you have any penetration results for the 200 gr BTB @1400 FPS?
     
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    I hope all the .45 is King crowd doesn't see this. There might be a DT 10mm ammo shortage.;f
     
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    hollow10mm cold,dead,hands

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    the 230 grain GD out performs all minimum requirments for Hand gun cartridges for S/D it more than doubles its size and penitrates 3.25 inches past what is considered "atequite". with that being said iam going to use 165 grain GD in my g-29 it will expand to 1.0 and penitrate 15.5 inches, but it takes a LITTLE longer to open up out of a g-29 compared to g-20
     
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    This data is the reason I carry the 135gr load. It should deposit most or all of its energy in the BG without overpenetration.
     
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    i'll second that question!
     
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    These results are very impressive. The 200 grain XTP penetrated 19.5 inches. I think that is what I will use for carrying in the woods in my G20. Do you guys think that would be a good choice or do you think the 180 grain gold dot is better?
     
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    I'm with you brother - thats what I'm packing right now too! ^c

    kestrou
     
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    In the woods? XTP for sure. McNett recommends it for animals up to 400 pounds. Gold Dot opens up too quickly as a hunting round.
     
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    Excellent, Mike! Are those .45 loadings standard pressure? I've never been a fan of bullets lighter than 230, but I might have to switch from the Ranger T to your 200-grain GD load.

    Never mind on the pressure question, I looked at some other threads and found the answer.
     
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    All this Gello talk should have made this thread "Sticky" by now. ^c