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Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by Ersatz0906, Dec 15, 2005.


  1. Ersatz0906

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    sir

    I'm planning to buy shotgun, what do you recommend? my budget will be 30k

    Twin pines is selling thier mossberg 88 for 28,000 but because they have no 88 model pistolize, so they sell mossberg 500 for the price of the 88. is it a good offer?

    whats the deffirence between 88 and the 500?

    thanks
     

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  2. vega

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    88 is actually a Maverick which is cheaper than Mossberg 500. The difference I believe is the placement of safety button. The Mossy is on the tang while the Maverick is on the trigger guard. You can't go wrong on both but the 88 should sell lower. Being in the Philippines, you can't argue with the store about the price. Have you considered buying Armscor shotties? I just had a bad experience with Armscor rep here in US that's way I was swayed with my decision and bought a Mossy 500 instead.

    Darn, with that price I could buy 2 Mossbergs, with extra barrels pa.

    Goodluck with your choice.

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  3. Ersatz0906

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    Thank you sir vega, how much did you get for the mossy 500? about the armscore shotgun no I didnt ask about it. but there is a new shotgun imported in phil. I forgot the name but its also cheap cost only for 16,000php made in turkey.

    I emailed mossberg and ask them the difference,
    The difference between the 500A and the Maverick 88 is the receiver and the trigger mechanism. The 500 has the safety on top of the receiver and the maverick 88 has a safety cross bolt located in the trigger housing (like sir vega said). The rest of the parts are interchangeable like the stock, Forearm, barrels and other parts. But the salelaady said the steel used on 500 is more durable than the 88 but I doubt that.

    here I only saw 2 model for the 500 the persuader cost 28,000 which has wood stock and forearm, and the other model 500 has a synthetic stock and forearm cost 35,000.

    but forgot to ask twinpines which one will they give me the wood or the synthetic for the price of the 88, if the wood then there will be no good offer because basically they are in the same price level.
     
  4. vega

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    Maverick and Mossbergs are manufactured by Mossberg. They use the same barrels. The saleslady doesn't know anything about it so she'll say whatever comes to mind. Take a closer look at the barrel of the Maverick, I think it will say Mossberg, I said I think. Ask the saleslady kung anong alloy ang receiver, pustahan tayo sasabihin bakal. It's made of alluminum.

    My 500 was $229.99 + $25 DROS + $16.17 tax = $271.16 = PHP14,913.80 and it came with 18.5" and 26" barrels.

    Turkey shotguns are also good but I'd rather get Armscor. BTW, you can't put longer barrel on the Persuader. I think it comes with 18.5 lenght barrel. The wood and synthetic stocks have the same price here. It's just an option.

    GO ARMSCOR!

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    Maverick 88s cost around $180.00 plus tax. I don't know why Twin Pines is putting such a high price on their Mavericks.
     
  6. cznayr

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    I think it was ante who is selling his shotgun. Try to PM him.
     
  7. darwin25

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    Make mine a LUPARA.;f

    A pump gun would surely be in my arsenal. But whichever first comes my way after the holiday spending, I'll grab it.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. vega

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    I don't think you'll have any luck with a Lupara in PI, err I mean RP.;)

    vega
     
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    Pards I already asked deenoh about this possibility. He said he would be willing to help. He said he'll see what he can do. But I will have to wait for their next ordering of guns:cool: Mas maganda siguro kung may iba pang interesado.;f ;f

    By the way would Perlas ng Silangan be a politically correct term?:)
     
  10. Ersatz0906

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    Love the Lupara hehe :) how much will that cost me?

    RP securities most if not all use armscore pistolize shotgun right?
    how is it? comments, possible or common problem?
     
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    friends of mine in the philippines bought the "Hadsan" shotguns, tama ba spelling?
    anyway, it was cheaper than the usual mossbergs, HK Fabarms, benelli, can be bought for only 17k last gunshow. Im not sure regarding its performance though.
    Hadsan shotguns are semi-autos..
    me, i'd prefer to buy an HK Fabarms or a pump action benelli.
     
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    Sir Darwin, Is this the same shotgun that's going to be in your vehicle?
     
  14. Ersatz0906

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    ya thats the one "hadsan" (I think). its made in turky. its cheap but dont know if its reliable.
     
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    I think it's HATSAN :)
     
  16. darwin25

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    Hi sir,

    either this one [​IMG]

    or this one. But this one's more likely for the home

    [​IMG]

    ;f
     
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    Hatsan. Made in Turkey and available at Hahn and PB. Very reasonably priced but "new kid on the block" and no track record yet in the Phil.

    IIRC, there was a two gun shoot last summer and the house gun on loan to the shooters for the shotgun event was a Hatsan, both in the semi-auto and pump action. Some minor hiccups during the competition but nothing serious. Performance was ho-hum and nothing to write home about.
     
  18. New_comer

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    Remington 870 is top dog in the shotgun arena. Built to last. Mine (Police wingmaster) I inherited from my dad is over thirty years old, still chewed out the two boxes of Armscor 00 buck like peanuts when I test fired it several months ago. Smooth as silk and fantastic trigger. Steel receiver with that very handsome oakwood stock. Original is 4+1, but I was able to buy a mag tube extender from PBD to make it 6+1.

    Saw one last gunshow at Magnificent World for 28,000 wood stock. Sometimes PBD carries them, parkerized version.

    Turkish shotguns from Sarsilmaz, Karatay, Hatsan only have aluminum receivers, hence the cheap price. Pang harabas ba, but I doubt if they'd retain significant resale value once you decide to get rid of them.

    Mav 88's I've read are made in Mexico and have only the most basic parts to allow it to function, hence the cheap price. The 500/590 series are the better ones.

    If you want cheap, I believe Norinco has a clone of the 870. Interchangeable pa yata ang parts. Check it out
     
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  20. cebuboy

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    it depends on what the shotgun is for:)

    for basic home defense, the karatay by akkar will do. its a turkish version of the rem 870 pump gun. its cheap, with parts available at pb. or if you like all steel gun you can go armscor:) the benelli nova is also a nice gun, if your comfartable with the stock length. think of it as a glock shotgun. made mostly of polymer, hence less maintenance. if you can, try handling the guns first to get the feel. better yet, if you can ask friends who are into shtoguns to let you pop off a few rounds:)