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Help me pick out a $1000 1911

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by frogger42, Feb 21, 2010.

  1. frogger42

    frogger42 Don't Panic!!

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    I plan to save up my money this year so that I can buy a 1911 next year during the 100 year anniversary. Here are the criteria I'm looking for...

    1. Street price very close to $1000.
    2. Forged, steel frame and slide (prefer stainless, but not a deal breaker).
    3. 5" Gov't model.
    4. Forward cocking serrations.
    5. No MIM parts, or at least minimal MIM parts.
    6. Standard, GI guide rod. I hate full length guide rods on a 1911.
    7. Good sights, or at least a slide cut to make installing good sights easy.
    8. Series 70 trigger system.

    I plan for this gun would be range fun and IDPA. I want something with all the standard upgrades (like the Springfield Loaded, but too much MIM for that one to make my list). I also plan to eventually send this off to a good gunsmith to make it a nice, custom gun but I'd like it pretty good out of the box since it could be several years before I can afford a gunsmith to work his magic.

    My first thought was a Dan Wesson RZ-45 Heritage, but I can't find any documentation on if the frame is cast or forged and if the guide rod is full length or not. I know it lacks the forward cocking serrations, but I could live without that if I could get everything else.

    What do you guys suggest? Can anyone tell me if the RZ-45 meets my list other than the FLGR?
     
  2. itsgottabeapit

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    If you really plan on sending it off to gunsmith in the future to make a nice custom gun I'd suggest buying a used 70 series Colt from gunbroker or local for around $800. Or a nice Springfield. You might be able to find a commeritive or collector gun with some stuff etched in the slide cheaper ($500 or so). Then the custom smith in the future could remove all of the unwanted design.

    but if you're not too sure that you'll be sending it in to get customized I'd look at some of the semi custom 1911s
    I personally wouldn't want Dan Wesson, Kimber, STI or anything like that etched in the side of a custom by someone else. Just my opinion though.
     


  3. bac1023

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    $1000 is going to be a stretch for a 1911 with the options you want.

    Dan Wesson or Fusion is the way to go, but will still be over $1000.

    All Dan Wesson frames and slides are supposed to be forged in 2010. Except for the Valor, the older models have cast frames.

    Prices will be higher as well and certainly over $1000.

    I think you need to save up another grand or so and get a nice semi custom.
     
  4. itsgottabeapit

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    What about a Kimber Bac? I think they're great for getting into the 1911 world too. And you can get them in your price range. But I just wouldn't want to send one off to get customized.
     
  5. Wade-19

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    The 2010 DW RZ-45 fits all your criteria except price and FCS . Forged frame and slide, GI guide rod, no MIM parts . You can get them for around $1150.
     
  6. bac1023

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    I have no problem with Kimber. Mine have been great.

    However, they don't meet his criteria of no MIM, series 70, forged frame, or no front serrations.
     
  7. itsgottabeapit

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    I read about the MIM with Kimber somewhere, I really don't know what parts are MIM but I had a slide lock break on a Series I. So I assume it was probably MIM.

    Wouldn't a Kimber Series I be the same as a 70 series? Just trying to learn.

    I have a Kimber Stainless Covert without front serrations, but it's not a government model....oh well I tried.
     
  8. bac1023

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    The STI Trojan is my favorite $1000-$1100 1911.

    Unfortunately, its not free of MIM and certainly has those big ugly serrations. :)

    [​IMG]


    Still, its the best shooting 1911 in its price range, in my opinion.
     
  9. itsgottabeapit

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    And you get the state of Texas on the slide at no additional charge! :supergrin:
     
  10. 11bdad

    11bdad 11bdad

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  12. bac1023

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    They don't meet the OP's criteria.
     
  13. Rinspeed

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    If you want no MIM you going to have to pony up more than a grand.
     
  14. bac1023

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    Well, not exactly. :embarassed:


    [​IMG]
     
  15. frogger42

    frogger42 Don't Panic!!

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    Bac,
    Thanks for the great replies, but I think you mis-read my original post. I DO want the forward cocking serrations. I like the STI Trojan a lot and it is one I'm considering. I wish they still made it in stainless. I does have the FLGR, but that is an easy fix. I'm ok with a little MIM, but for around $1000 I don't want nothing but MIM so Kimber is definitely off my list.

    Right now, I'm considering just getting a Springfield Stainless Mil-Spec and then having someone like Bruce Gray go to town on it once I save up some more money.
     
  16. G36_Me

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    I saw some Colt Gold Cups at the gun show today in your price range. If I had a grand, that's what I'd get right now. It doesn't have those front useless 'things' you want. My hand never gets that close to the business end of the gun.

    Let us know what you decide.

    this is a picture of one that has already been sold by Cabelas.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2010
  17. walkin' trails

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    I was having a discussion with a guy who is an STI fan the other day and he said there were no MIM parts in the STIs. I honestly don't know, but I fired the little Escort that he had recently acquired and was impressed. That thing in .45ACP beat my hand less than my G27 does. For the money, the S&W 1911s are pretty nice, but I don't know how much MIM they use.
     
  18. bac1023

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    Thanks.

    I did misread your post. The Trojan is my suggestion. Mine has the hard chrome option and isn't stainless.

    Dan Wesson would be fine as well.
     
  19. bac1023

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    Not true.

    STI has 1911s in all price ranges and even the most expensive have a small amount of MIM, I believe.


    [​IMG]