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Haz mat fees?

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by BSA70, Apr 26, 2010.

  1. BSA70

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    I was going to get an order up for some supplies and noticed a tremendous hazmat fee. I s this normal? Are you better off walking into a store a purchasing these items?

    Is there a way to save money in this area?
     
  2. XDRoX

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    Most online stores charge $20 or $25 hazmat and there is no way to get around it. I order primers by the 5000 and powder by the 8lb keg. Even with hazmat this works out to be much cheaper than the stores around here.

    So if you order in bulk, you'll save. But if all the want is 100 primers, then your local store is still the best way to go.
     


  3. XDRoX

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    BTW, you only have to pay one hazmat per order (although there is a limit), it's not per item.
     
  4. rifleman56

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    xdrox, where is the best place to buy primers?
     
  5. ron59

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    I do what XdRox says, but I buy primers 10,000 at a time.

    Hazmat is $25 or so.... assuming the primer price is $25 per 1000 and you only buy 1000 primers and then pay Hazmat, you just paid $50 per 1000.

    Order 10,000 primers, and with hazmat your price is now $27.xx per 1000. Locally, I've not seen them better than $40.00 per 1000, most online stores (Graf's, etc) as well.

    If you can throw some powder in there as well, you're doing even better.

    Powder Valley is *the* place for primers, but they'll be listing everything as "BACKORDER" right now. Go ahead and place an order for 10,000 and wait for it... pick up what you can locally or other online places when you can, but be prepared to pay $40 per 1000. That's a little steep in my opinion, but I may have to resort to that.

    I'm down to my last 2500 or so, and that'll last me a month maybe. I hope my PV order ships soon! ;)
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2010
  6. XDRoX

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    Here are 5000 Wolf small pistol primers for $137.

    If I want CCI I buy them from midway or cabela's. I just check everyday and order them when they get them in. They usually get more in about once every other week. But they charge a lot for them.
     
  7. unclebob

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    http://www.grafs.com/
    http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/
    These are the two of the best places too order primers and powder. The more you order the better. If you order enough the discount well pay for the hazmat fee. Get with your friends that reload and place a large order. That is the only way you are going too save money.
     
  8. rifleman56

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    I just back ordered 5000 primers from power valley
     
  9. dudel

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    IIRC, there is a limit on how many primers and how much powder they will ship you under one fee.
     
  10. XDRoX

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    Yep, that's why I said , although there is a limit. I believe it's different for different companies. I know that Widener's charges $25 for whatever they can fit in a package. Once you go over "their package" another $25 is added.
    How much can they fit in a package is the question:dunno:
    I know I've ordered quite a bit from them and they always fit it in one package. On their site they even state:
    "Order all you can to reduce your cost per unit as many items can usually be put in one package."
     
  11. ron59

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    With Powder Valley.... I think the limit is SEVENTY POUNDS!!??!!

    I think you can order quite a bit of stuff at that rate. :supergrin:
     
  12. alwaysshootin

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    and to add, I believe there is a seperate fee for each powder and primers. If you can order in bulk it is worth the haz-mat fee. You are paying it one way or another, even when you buy at a brick and mortar. All fees and taxes are paid by the consumer, one way or another!:crying:
     
  13. jing1117

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    My experience with Grafs is 30,000 primers (Federal Small Pistol) is the limit per box, one hazmat fee - Don't know if this will change with CCI/Winchester/Wolf/Remington brands since they are packed in smaller boxes. For Powder its 32#.
     
  14. XDRoX

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    All the places I've ordered from do not charge separate hazmat fees for buying powder and primers in the same order.
     
  15. alwaysshootin

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    That's good to hear, have never ordered with shipping of either, but thought I read there was a seperate charge. I've been lucky finding what I need at gun shows, and shops to date, but feel sometime in the future a sizable order will be needed.
     
  16. They appear to be one of the only places accepting backorders...
    When ordering backordered - whats the general ETA....?

    Are we talking 2-3 weeks? 1-2 months? 3-6 months? or 6+?

    I'm just stocking up, got 10K primers and 8lbs inbound from Wideners. Just want to know how far ahead of the curve to anticipate consumables...
     
  17. captyg76

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    MidSouth Shooters also accepts backorders.
     
  18. RustyFN

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    Yes and the limits are,

    70 pounds of primers, usually 50,000
    50 pounds of powder
    50 pounds of powder and primers mixed

    I usually buy from Graf & Sons and I buy 50,000 primers at a time for one hazmat.
     
  19. Glocks&Ducs

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    I believe it is 48 pounds of powder and 48 pounds of mixed. I also believe there is a rule that states powder and primers must be shipped in seperate containers. Some places take this to mean two seperate boxes, with the associated two hazmat fees, and others ship in the same outer box, with the powder and primers seperated by boxing in the inside.

    Also, I don't know if the girl I spoke to was just mistaken, but I called PV once and was told that they would only ship 48 pounds of primers on one hazmat fee. I think she also said that usually comes out to 47,000 primers by the time you account for the weight of the packaging. Wideners shipped my 50,000 primer order one fee and in one box. So they got my business that day.
     
  20. Gunnut 45/454

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    When you buy in the store your still paying the Haz mat fee - it's just included into your price! As with all fees and taxes the store includes it in your price ! :whistling: