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Have you ever had a failure that you can really blame on a lube?

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Wash-ar15, Jun 16, 2012.


  1. Wash-ar15

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    one of the most common questions is what kind of lube do people use. there are so many kinds out there so the answers vary. to me, the lubes are so good these day, it does not really matter. just pick a one.

    So has anyone ever had a failure that they can really attribute to the lube they used?
     

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  2. arclight610

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    Not really. Lubrication is less important in some guns, more important than others. AR-15's require good lubrication. Since the bolt/bolt carrier act as the pistol and heat up, lubrication burn off is a concern.
     

  3. Creatism

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    Not really due to a specific lube, but lack of lube, my 1911 if it got dry would start having ftf. Greasing the rails helped that a lot.


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  4. M&P15T

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    Not in any firearms I've ever owned. But then I like to keep them clean and properly lubed.
     
  5. flynlead

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    Yes, on a low end 1911 I use to have. It was all my fault (young and dumb) I ran it dry and had failure after failure. Took apart and lubed it and failures went away.

    Other than that, no all my guns function with pretty much any kind of lube
     
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  6. RJ's Guns

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    At a shooting match in 20 degree below zero (ambient) weather, the lube that a competitor used on his weapon congealed and caused his auto-loader to repeatedly fail to feed and fail to extract.
     
  7. WarEagle32

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    Not due to a specific Tyne of lube that I used. However, any 1911 in my experience if you don't keep it pretty lubed will not run as well as it can. A Glock doesn't need much at all!
     
  8. A'boy

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    Only a lackthereof in my AR's....but no longer.
     
  9. Bruce M

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    Lack of - yes a couple times. One specific brand versus another, nope.
     
  10. michael e

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    I went 9k rounds with no lube or cleaning a gun before the first failure, this was with lead bullets that are a little dirty. Was a gun I never carried and wanted to see how long it would go.
     
  11. K.Kiser

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    I'm gonna say no, but it's a trick question... If a firearm has special needs in the lube dept. then I'm gonna lay some of the blame on the design itself...

    If a firearm is clean, and oiled just enough to be not dry then it should run if it's of proper design...

    I have some firearms that are over 40 years old and have never seen anything other than wd-40 and the steel and blue still appear as new, in louisiana humidity but I understand that's not a functionality test.. My semi-auto's have lived on mostly remoil with no trouble.. I've also used motor oil, 3 in 1 oil, ATF, 2-stroke outboard oil, or whatever else was laying around with no problems if the firearm was clean..
     
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  12. countrygun

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    Other than having WD-40 turn to shellac in a gun stored long-term, no.
     
  13. DWARREN123

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    Yes but many years ago. M60 machine gun, jungle terrain and lots of rain/water crossings washed the LSA off enough that after 500 rounds the gun started to have problems. Dumped some LSA in the receiver, operated action a few times and it started working fine again. :supergrin:
     
  14. arclight610

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    Go to Wal-Mart, buy yourself a quart of Mobil 1 synthetic. You shouldn't ever have to buy lube (gun) again.
     
  15. Decguns

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    We had all kinds of problems with CLP in our M16A2s and M4s, but that's all we could get thanks to Hazmat reg's. After 90rds, it's all burned off and leaves behind a sticky residue. Had to improvise quickly "borrowing" dry moly from the avionics guys and motor oil from trans. Both worked surprisingly well.
     
  16. chewybaca67

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  17. samurairabbi

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    In a variation of the OP question: I have seen many Glocks show up with light primer strikes, not because of a PARTICULAR lube, but because of ANY lube ending up in a critical spot, namely the striker channel. When that channel is lubed, and the vent hole into it clogs because of powder/brass fragments mixing with the lube, then Glock reliability starts to die. Simply cleaning the crud out with a Q-tip restores reliable function.
     
  18. 427

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    Wasn't a lube issue but an operator issue. I had a buddy who like to run his weapon wet, almost dripping. When we moved to a dry dusty climate, despite warnings, he still ran it wet and it became a dust/dirt magnet.
     
  19. Quack

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    yep, but I knew it was gonna happen. Wanted to see how Slide Glide worked on a 1911 in 40 degree weather. As I thought, I was causing FTRB and gun ran fine after I removed it and used oil.

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  20. PlasticGuy

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    I take and teach a lot of high round count classes. I also hunt a lot, and primarily in the cold of winter. I've had problems with shotguns freezing up in extreme cold, and with lube cooking off of handguns and rifles when run hard. I generally use CLP for cold to moderate temperatures, and FP-10 for hot weather and/or high round counts. I haven't had a problem due to lube since I switched to those products.