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Harry Reid security detail crashes

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by MarcDW, Oct 27, 2012.

  1. MarcDW

    MarcDW MDW Guns Millennium Member

    Oct 20, 1999
    Maine USA
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2012
  2. merlynusn


    Nov 16, 2007
    The articles say that 2 non-motorcade cars were also involved.

    It must have been a moving motorcade instead of a clear the streets motorcade, which is typical of all but the Presidential and Vice Presidential ones.

    I imagine some civilian got freaked and make a wrong move which just caused a chain reaction.

  3. jpa

    jpa CLM

    May 28, 2001
    Las Vegas NV
    The accident was in a spot on I-15 notorious for accidents (NB right by Charleston, just north of the Sahara ramp). There are at least 3-4 accidents in this location every single day.

    I got stuck in the resulting traffic jam behind it. NHP already had 2 units on scene and a slicktop was just arriving when I passed it. 3 black suburbans with cold plates and red/blue lights all around. A whole bunch of guys in black suits and sunglasses wandering around. The lead car was all kinds of jacked up and the other two weren't as bad but nothing that will buff right out. There's pics floating around online if you care to look for them. I've heard as many as 6 cars involved or as few as 4 depending on which news story. The POVs involved were already either gone or cleared out when I finally passed.

    I've been told his security detail is state DPS officers.
  4. blueiron


    Aug 10, 2004
    The USSS protects only the president, the VP, and foreign heads of State when they visit the United States.

    The president of the Senate has a security detail because he is in the decapitation succession line.
  5. Gallium

    Gallium CLM

    Mar 26, 2003

    By law, the Secret Service is authorized to protect:

    • The president, the vice president, (or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President), the president-elect and vice president-elect
    • The immediate families of the above individuals
    • Former presidents, their spouses, except when the spouse re-marries
    • Children of former presidents until age 16
    • Visiting heads of foreign states or governments and their spouses traveling with them, other distinguished foreign visitors to the United States, and official representatives of the United States performing special missions abroad
    • Major presidential and vice presidential candidates, and their spouses within 120 days of a general presidential election
    • Other individuals as designated per Executive Order of the President and
    • National Special Security Events, when designated as such by the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security
  6. blueiron


    Aug 10, 2004

    I was pointing out that the president of the Senate doesn't rate a USSS detail.
  7. CJStudent

    CJStudent Fenced In

    Nov 3, 2005
    "Or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President" could cover it.
  8. blueiron


    Aug 10, 2004
    The Speaker of the House is third in line, but does not get USSS protection. Cabinet secretaries are in the line of succession and do not get USSS details either.
  9. CJStudent

    CJStudent Fenced In

    Nov 3, 2005
    I'm not saying it's likely; just possible under that, or "Other individuals as designated per Executive Order of the President".
  10. Gallium

    Gallium CLM

    Mar 26, 2003

    I think you're intentionally trying to mind screw me. :cool:

    Did you mean Senate Majority Leader? Because the current senate president DOES get a USSS detail. He's a pretty useless fellow that contributes little to how .gov runs... so you might not have heard much of him. :whistling: His name is Joe Biden.
  11. CJStudent

    CJStudent Fenced In

    Nov 3, 2005
  12. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

    Actually, Obama has a great reason to rest easy: Biden.

    Who the hell would want to chance having a Biden succession if they ever harmed Obama? Thinking about having that walking gaffe machine as president is enough to keep Obama safe.
  13. ejes


    Mar 29, 2009
    Senate and House leadership details are provided by US Capitol Police. Cabinet Secretaries most generally have security details comprised and provided by the investigative or OIG units of their respective departments; Dept. of Energy, HHS, USDA, etc.
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2012
  14. The President of the Senate is the Vice President. When there is a joint session of congress, the Speaker of The House and President of the Senate preside. If the president is speaking, as he does with the State of the Union, he'll begin by saying, "Thank you Mr. Speaker, Mr. President."

    Sorry, kind of a government geek :whistling:
  15. USAF96815


    Apr 26, 2012
    Honolulu, HI
    You're correct.

    And that's who Reid would have had, US Cap Cops and probably some locals mixed in.
  16. w01


    Nov 22, 2005
    You will also see the Vice President presiding over the Senate when there is a possibility of a tie vote on an important bill. The VP, in his/her role as President of the Senate, gets to cast the tie breaking vote in the event of a tie in a Senate vote.

    The line of succession is:

    Speaker of the House
    President Pro Tem of the Senate
    Secretary of State
    (other cabinet members in a specific order of seniority - Defense is # 2, Homeland Security is last)

    You may remember Al Haig was the Secretary of State when Reagan was shot. Bush (the elder) was VP and was traveling out of direct contact. Haig was at the White House and was quoted as saying "I am in control" for which he was criticized as bypassing the congressional leaders in presidential succession. Probably the criticism was blown out of proportion, but Haig could have avoided it by a less controlling commentary (he was a retired 4 star General)

    You may also notice that in State of the Union speeches, one cabinet secretary is selected to be the "off site" cabinet representative for continuity of government in the event of a major disaster at the Capitol while the entire government leadership is there. Usually it's a junior secretary.
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2012
  17. Like Valerie Jarrett...