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Handloader or Reloader?

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by marvin, Aug 18, 2010.

  1. marvin

    marvin sci-fi nut

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    i've always seen these as two differnt things. a Handloader does everything likes it's life or death. you know they weigh every case and powder charge, clean primer pockets, sort bullets, try every primer made looking for the one that gives tenth better group.

    then the reloaders, they find a load that works and stop there.

    i'll be the first to admit that for the most part i just fill the hopper, fill the primers, throw some brass in the loader and go to town. i only check the powder measure when i first get started, only chamber check the ammo when i have a large match coming up. i don't put the ammo in an ammo box, just throw it in to a coffee can.

    so are you a reloader or a handloader.
     
  2. Glockin26

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    Reloader trying to save money instead of shooting crappy factory loads.
     
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  3. Uncle Don

    Uncle Don Wood butcher

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    I'm a reloader on all my handgun and many rifle loads. Those rifle loads where accuracy is key, I batch load and do all those things you would consider a "hand loader" to do.
     
  4. Daryl in Az

    Daryl in Az Enjoying life!

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    I've always sorta seen the terms as:

    Reloader means someone who loads their own to save money.

    Handloader means someone who loads their own to make better-than-factory ammo that suits their firearm and their needs better. Money savings is just an added bonus.

    Daryl
     
  5. tjpet

    tjpet

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    The terms are interchangeable. Neither conotates quantity or quality to me. That depends soley on the individual in question.
     
  6. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    ^ Bingo


    Jack
     
  7. Colorado4Wheel

    Colorado4Wheel

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    Handloader is someone who uses a hammer to reload his ammo.
    Legloader is someone who a Lee Hand press to load bigger cases.
    They are all reloaders.
     
  8. Brucev

    Brucev

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    Reloader/Handloader... six of one... half a dozen of the other.
     
  9. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    Little Stevie tried to make a funny... FAIL


    Jack
     
  10. Colorado4Wheel

    Colorado4Wheel

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    I didn't want to stray from the essence of this thread. I thought we were all just making crap up and I hate to be left out.
     
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  11. I'm definitely a reloader. Bought a press, made a box of ammo with different powder charges, picked one that felt best, and this is my recipe from now on. I may change to a different powder eventually though, getting tired of Unique's measuring like wet sand.
     
  12. Bob2223

    Bob2223 Jack's buddy!

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    Jack has free government brass and also gets lead free so that makes him a freeloader !

    :tongueout:

    Bob
     
  13. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    Some of us are just smarter and innovative than others... and how much do you pay for your brass and lead again?

    Think I'll have a scotch and roll in a few hundred pounds of .45 brass. :whistling:

    (Bet it'd be more fun rollin' around with a woman. :crying:)


    Jack
     
  14. D. Manley

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    I guess I'm a "handloader" on those rare occasions when I use new brass....:supergrin:
     
  15. BlayGlock

    BlayGlock

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    By that definition I am a reloader then. I find a load that works fine and just shoot it. Im not a bullseye shooter.
     
  16. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

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    All right. I'll be the first to say handloader by your definition.

    If I'm going to screw around with it, why not make it the best it can be? I don't spend time brewing beer so I can drink a crrrz laaat at the end of the day. Why should loading be any different?



    Then again, I shoot more rifle than (I think) a lot of folks here...

    :dunno:
     
  17. marvin

    marvin sci-fi nut

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    i came up with this while talking with a buddy that go's to extreme's with his custom .308, he has used every trick he has ever heard of to get the most out of his gun. and i most say that it scary accurate(most of his groups start with .2 or .3)

    but i'm an IPSC shooter who it more interested in reliablity and cost. when i first started reloading .40 i used a lot of Vit 340. then my borther gave me 16 pounds of green dot, well it was free so i started using it. then i found out that i could go to the Star bullet company and get their 2nd bullets for 40 to 45 per thousand. they closed a few years ago and it's done more to hurt the amount that i shot than any other thing.

    i'm sure that there are loads that are more accurate but over all this load works pretty darn good. i did switch to universal clay when i got a good deal but when that ran out i went back to GD
     
  18. marvin

    marvin sci-fi nut

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    this is the one area that might change me. i load a lot of .223 with 55 grain fmj's, groups run from 1.5 to 2.5. but i got some 69 smk and came up with a load that worked better than i thought it would, so i tried to get better groups by sorting the brass and triming. cut the groups some but not as much as i hoped.
     
  19. deadhawg

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    I handload rifle rounds for best accuracy. I trim every case to the same length, weigh each charge, I use the best bullets money can buy, among other things.

    I reload pistol rounds to save money. I never trim cases. I use a powder measure to drop charges. I buy plated or lead bullets in bulk. I've been using the same .45 acp recipe for years.

    So does that make me a handreloader?
     
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  20. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

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    :supergrin:

    Yeah, it depends on where you're drawing the line. I don't trim pistol brass, I do sometimes trim brass for revolvers to get a more consistent roll crimp. I don't clean primer pockets for any handgun and it probably doesn't make any difference when I do it for rifle rounds. I will uniform flash holes on .44 mag, because I shoot it through a lever gun and treat them like rifle rounds.

    The lines are pretty blurry, so who knows?

    :dunno: