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Guncrafter No Name in .38 Super or 10MM??

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by drc767, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. drc767

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    I have been exchanging ideas with Alex at GCI about doing some limited run No Names and am wondering how much interest there would be in doing a couple No Names in either .38 Super or 10mm? The pistol would retain all of the features of the current .45 offering, but chambered in one of these two calibers. Any thoughts on either this idea or any other interesting ideas would be appreciated. These would not be catalogue builds, rather builds that I would have built on a very limited basis so I am open to anything. Right now I am just trying to think up some ideas that may be interesting......thoughts or ideas?
     
  2. bac1023

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    I imagine both would have a good level of interest.

    There are certainly a good deal of 10mm fans on this board. :)

    Heck, the 38 Super was pretty much designed for the 1911.
     


  3. drc767

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    I love shooting the Super out of the 1911 platform, but the 10mm is just way too cool! Probably my favorite pistol caliber...
     
  4. bac1023

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    The 10mm is a cool caliber for sure. :cool:

    I only own one and that's an original Bren Ten. I plan on getting a new remake from Vltor next year when they become available.
     
  5. Rinspeed

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    I've never shot a 10mm but would sure like to.
     
  6. drc767

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    Rin.....the 10mm in the 1911 is awesome!! I see DoubleTap has a new 10mm load in the Barnes TAC-XP Bullet that looks pretty impressive. It is a pretty light bullet for a 10mm, but it is kind of hard to ignore 1,600 fps velocity!! :)

    Caliber : 10mm

    Bullet : 125gr. Barnes TAC-XP

    Ballistics : 125gr. @ 1600fps / 710ft/lbs- Glock 20
    1450fps / 582ft lbs 50yds. Glock 20
    Glock 29 - 1501fps
     
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  7. Tactical black

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    I'm hoping to get a 1911 in 10mm but if I'm getting the NN I want it in 45acp.
     
  8. HAIL CAESAR

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  9. The 10mm is making a comeback, but it'll never be as popular as the .38Super, given the Super's international use in competition.

    For the handloader, just take a look at Starline's several different brass offerings in .38Super.

    I can load .357cal 125gr/140gr XTPs in .38Super (the 125gr XTP high 1400s with little recoil) for 1911s, or put 8 round moonclips on them for the scandium N-frame M327 TRR8.

    I have 2 10mms, but for personal protection living in a very rural desert environment, I keep coming back to carrying the .38Super and .357mag, in part, because they both give excellent terminal performance using bullets designed for fast velocities.

    In contrast, the 10mm puts up nice numbers, but you're still using bullets designed for .40S&W velocities; except for the 175gr Silvertip. The 10mm gives great results at hunting distances because bullets slow down to their design velocity range, but at personal defense distances, you'll lose penetration depth.

    Since the Gold Dot design is usually equated with personal defense, here are some selected 10mm Gold Dot gel data comparisons posted by Mike McNett, using Double Tap ammunition;

    The 10mm/180gr GD was 200fps faster than the .40S&W/180gr GD, more recoil and expansion, yet only penetrated 0.5" deeper. The .45auto went heads up with the 10mm, .357mag with its high velocity design gave very deep penetration.

    The .40/180gr share the same sectional density with the .45/230gr; however, the sectional density of the .357/158gr compares with .40/200gr; but, Speer does not make a 200gr Gold Dot.

    You could also market 1911/.45auto with .400 Corbon barrels, as some manufacturers do.

    Bob :cowboy:
     
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  10. Ruggles

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    You 10mm boys must be trying to compensate for something!

    .38 Super is the man's caliber, sleek and smooth. :)

    A NN in .38 should be a smooth shooting mutha! That does indeed sound interesting.
     
  11. Ruggles

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    A man of class and distinction I see :)
     
  12. usurp31

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    That makes absolutely no sense at all. :tongueout: Bogie would be disappointed.

    Who's trying to compensate? :supergrin:
     
  13. Ruggles

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    It's that whole big and strong looking thing with the 10mm.....

    Bogie was pushing 5'8"....small package with alot of WHAM...all with style....just like the .38 Super baby!

    :)

    Bogie was a .38 Super man fer sure.....
     
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    :cool: Actually Bogie was a .455 Webley man.. 11.53mm!!
     
  15. drc767

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    As much as I love the 10mm, I would probably pick the .38 Super for EDC. I have a 125g Speer Gold Dot load that is excellent. Starline Brass, Small Pistol Mag. Primer, 10.5g of VV N105 that gives me right around 1,500 fps out of a 5" 1911. It is much more controllable than 10mm for follow up shots and is getting up there in 357 Sig Velocities.....The thing I really like is the fact that they are loaded to the same OAL as the .45, so the weapon tends to be a little more reliable. Either way, if I end up working something out with Alex, I will have one of each caliber. :)
     
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  16. usurp31

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    And that's the way to go.
     
  17. bac1023

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    Very cool :thumbsup:
     
  18. Ruggles

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    "if I end up working something out with Alex, I will have one of each caliber. "

    Don't forget about the little people! Let us know I might be in for a .38!
     
  19. drc767

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    Ruggles.....PM sent. I have some info for you if your interested in this.