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Gun Ban in Places of Worship Upheld

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by GeorgiaGlocker, Jul 21, 2012.

  1. steveksux

    steveksux Massive Member

    Jul 12, 2007
    That was such a stupid argument the court made, can't imagine it would hold up on appeal.

    Its not upholding property rights of churches to ban carry on all churches... the suit was brought by a minister trying to exercise his property rights to allow carry at his church for God's sake!!!

    As the guy from GC says, they weren't asking to be able to carry against the church's wishes... :upeyes:


  2. Toby196

    Toby196 Fetching a rug.

    Yeah, the whole rationale seems absurd. According to the courts own conclusion ["An individual's right to bear arms 'certainly must be limited by the equally fundamental right of a private property owner to exercise exclusive dominion and control over its land,' Appeals Court Judge Gerald Tjoflat wrote."], a more sensible ruling would've been to allow firearms in churches that permit guests to do so.

    Especially considering the article notes that one of the other specific places where guns are prohibited by the current law is "bars without the owners permission". So a bar owner can allow you to carry a gun, but a church owner cannot?
  3. I guarantee you there are "a couple guns" in my church
  4. Caver 60

    Caver 60

    Jun 12, 2007
    Our state allows church carry with the permission of the pastor or those in charge of the church.

    And you can carry in bars with permission. Just can't be intoxicated.
  5. NEOH212

    NEOH212 Diesel Girl

    Mar 25, 2008
    North East Ohio
    Yet more judges that don't understand the Constitution.

  6. Toby196

    Toby196 Fetching a rug.

    Sadly, I think it's worse than that. Judging by the articles that have been linked in this thread, it seams that the justices have an adequate understanding of the Constitution, but still chose to prohibit firearms from churches that permit it.

    Why is it that a bar owner can choose to allow firearms on their property, yet church owners cannot? To be clear, I support any private property owner being able to decide whether guns are allowed or not (just as it's our decision whether to frequent such establishments). But apparently the court treated the case as though the pastor was trying to force all churches (or any private property, for that matter) to allow guns on their premises.
  7. Lior


    Jul 23, 2004
    Does this law mean that murder attempts that are carried out with banned instruments in places of worship are magically never successful?
  8. Toby196

    Toby196 Fetching a rug.

    Of course!. Should someone attempt to commit murder in a house of worship, the moment they pull the trigger the weapon will, "poof", disappear from their grip.

    Thank God for gun control!
  9. oldsoldier


    Jun 22, 2008
    You might be in MO then. A lot of people don't know it's legal under our law.
  10. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

    May 4, 2003
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2012
  11. 40 S+W

    40 S+W

    Nov 19, 2011
    Metro Atlanta.
    I wonder how this affects a Church Security Team in Ga????
  12. GeorgiaGlocker

    GeorgiaGlocker Incirlik AB

    Jan 13, 2006
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2012
  13. 40 S+W

    40 S+W

    Nov 19, 2011
    Metro Atlanta.
    I take the read as yes they (church sec team) can be armed.. I'm thinkin once a paritioner turns his weapon into you, the security team for whatever,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, You're Armed!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ain't the LAW Grand???? And I'll bet thousands of dollars changed hands here as well????
  14. Alcoy


    Jul 13, 2006

    you always carry a back up gun with your main EDC in church?
  15. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

    Mar 13, 2001
    Not a chance
    It does not if they are LEO .