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GOT MY DILLON ORDERED WITH EVERYTHING NEEDED TO START!!!! / starting data?

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by mike g35, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. mike g35

    mike g35

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    I finally ordered my Dillon Precision 550 press with all the accesories I need to get started. Even bought a chronograph a Competition Electronics and a starter bench from Stack-On, the 382. Anyone that knows me on here knows my passion for Carver Custom raceguns and shooting with the dot and comp., finally I can start building loads to suit those guns. :supergrin:

    Before it's even said I realize some of you told me to go with the 650, but my sponsor Bobby Carver as well as Dillon Precision and Brian Enos and even some of you told me to go with the 550, so I did.

    Now its time to gather some data, here's what I am thinking of starting with. For the 40S&W limited I am thinking of starting with a 180gr bullet, for the open (compensated) a 155 or 135. For my 9mm open gun, 124gr and for the production (GSSF) load I am thinking 147gr. Figured I would start with Federal primers and Winchester Auto-Comp powder. I have about 5000 cases, once fired, to start with so I am good in that respect. I am planning on getting all of my bullets from Montana Gold and X-treme.

    So those are the bullets weights I know I need to be running. My question here is are there better powders to run in these guns with these bullet weights and if so what are they and why???? Keep in mind the 40 open and limited must make major power factor (IPSC) and the open 9 minor IPSC PF. Thanks.
     
  2. rpgman

    rpgman SCGLOCK

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    Cool...
    so why the 550 and NOT the xl650?
    Greg
     


  3. rpgman

    rpgman SCGLOCK

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    oops sorry, you answered that.
    I still think the xl650 was the right choice.
    I bet Ron agrees.
     
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  4. rpgman

    rpgman SCGLOCK

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    I use Precision Delta 147gr FMJ with 4.3gr of Unique for GSSF in 9mm

    and, in .40, I use Precision Delta 165gr FMJ with 6.1gr of Unique for GSSF.

    I don't shoot any other leagues, yet.
    Greg
     
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  5. mike g35

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    To be honest with you Greg it was a matter of simplicity. The 550 is the recommended press for someone just getting started in reloading and with me having to develop some loads that are going to push safe pressure standards anyway I thought the simpler the machine the better off I would be. The 650 has all the bells and whistles that you could ever want, but to be honest I just didn't want them. One thing I know is to be successful you need to use the K.I.S.S. method. Keepin' it simple my friend, I'm just keepin' it simple.
     
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  6. SigFTW

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    You will love the 550B, easy, quick and reliable!:cool:
     
  7. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

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    Make sure that it's a fast burning powder and you load at least 1,000 before you test.

    :whistling:








    Kidding. Please don't listen to me.
     
  8. rpgman

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    lol, 'The 1000 loaded round guy'
     
  9. Bello

    Bello America/Italia

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    congrats on your machine you will enjoy it!
     
  10. mike g35

    mike g35

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    SURE I will load 10,000 instead though OK?LOL

    I actually know quite a bit about reloading if "book knowledge" counts for anything. The actual reloading process I have only gone through with a SS RCBS press loading for a rifle. But it was a 338-06 that a local custom rifle builder built as his deer gun. Freakin' wildcat caliber, he confused me enough with the thought of that gun let alone trying to remember all the steps in loading. The 550 seemed to me to be the best choice. I have, in Rons words, been "waffling" back and forth for months now and decided to just make a decision. I am going to have a really nice looking set-up if thats worth anything, lots of blue on the bench!!! :eek:)
     
  11. unclebob

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    The 650 is no more complicated than a 550. In some respects it is simpler. Not counting the same steps as a 550. You have 3 items to pull off, and unscrew one piece. Screw in one piece and install 3 other pieces. And the press auto indexes. If anyone thinks that is complicated than many I suggest they take up golf.
     
  12. mike g35

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    Greg what type of press are you using?? A 650?? Those are awesome machines, just a bit much for my purposes. Besides I like to sit and do anything that has anything to do with shooting. A slower machine just gives me more time to relax.
     
  13. Fire_Medic

    Fire_Medic Polymer Butcher CLM

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    I will give you my $0.02 cents on powder.

    Fred turned me on to WSF for most anything not 45 a long time ago and I have been VERY happy with that powder. Like you I used it to shoot 40 SW and then used it in 9mm. I get very clean burning and accurate loads in both calibers with a factory like feel in recoil. I have used Unique as well with good success, but to me WSF is an improved Unique if you will as it meters great, especially though my 550B.

    YMMV, but WSF sounds like the perfect powder for you and what your intended use is.
     
  14. rpgman

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    I started in August with a Lyman T-Mag II Turret Press and the beginning of November, I got my xl650 and load 9mm and .40 on it.

    I now load my wife's 38 special on the Lyman T-Mag II because she doesn't shoot as much as I do.

    I shoot any where from 2000 to 3000 rounds a month now.

    I was going to get the 550, but Ron who has a 550 (and now a new xl650) suggested I go with the xl650, and I'm glad he did.
    Greg
     
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  15. rpgman

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    I got a pound of that two weeks ago to try. I'm tired of how Unique meters in my xl650.
    Greg
     
  16. RustyFN

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    I load on a 550 and it's a great machine. The 650 would have been faster and let you add on a case feeder that works good, I have heard the case feeder for the 550 doesn't work real good. I live a little north of you and shoot at Fort Harmar Rifle Club in Ohio. Hopefully I'll see you at the GSSF match later in the year.
     
  17. fredj338

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    There is no downside to loading on a 550b but speed. A great machine & I use a 550B & 650.
    JMO, Noob reloaders should stick w/ components & data readily available. Autcomp may be fine for 40 maj, I have no idea, but there is so little data for it. Lots of good powder/bullet combos in the 2-3 reloading manuals you should already have. As FM notes, I like WSF, also Unique for upper midrange 40 loads. Lots of data for both powders. Others will work, sure, I can make any powder go bang, but a good medium burner like WSF, Unique, Universal or PP makes it easier & safer for the noob. Enjoy the 550!
     
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  20. lethal tupperwa

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    Mike, just remember Not to load a 1000 of anything Until you know it works.

    Start with 20 of a load to try.

    Pulling bullets takes lots of time.