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Discussion in 'Reloading' started by morbidking, Feb 16, 2014.

  1. morbidking

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    We got about 3 feet of snow can't do much outside

    So I decided to try coating some bullets actually surprised me how good they turned out over 300 rounds and no leading

    Passed the hammer smashing test

    Coated using cheap rust-oleum enamel paint just like this video [ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZJwiPvYxdc[/ame]

    Cast using rcbs 82068 mold 200gr it drops wheel weight at 205gr

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  2. sig357fan

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    interesting.....care to share your load data and what weapon they were fired from.

    can't help wondering if this could be a way to shoot cast bullets in a gas operated action.

    sig357fan
     


  3. Colorado4Wheel

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    I shoot lead with the lube out of a M1A. No big deal at all.
     
  4. dkf

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    I coated some 35-147S and 356-96RF boolits today with epoxy paint. First time I am trying this particular epoxy spray paint. Maybe once the snow compacts more I will be able to shoot some test loads.(don't want to lose the brass)

    Cast boolits in ARs are not a problem. The "clogging up the gas system" you sometimes hear is a wives tale.
     
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  5. morbidking

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    Load was 3.6gr of tite group from a g22 300 rounds and 300 rounds for xdm 40 3.8

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  6. Taterhead

    Taterhead Counting Beans

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    What affect, if any, does the paint have on fouling the feed ramp, barrel, action, etc?

    Does it leave paint residue? Is it easy to clean?
     
  7. morbidking

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    so far none as of yet and if their would be it should be easier to clean then lead i hate cleaning lead out of a barrel
     
  8. sig357fan

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    Should have been more specific about use in a gas operated action.

    I’ve never been able to run a cast bullet in a gas operated rifle fast enough to cycle the action reliably and not get leading in the bore and lead fouling in the gas system.

    What bullet are you using, lubed and checked? Whats your load for your M1A, how fast are you pushing them and does it cycle/feed reliably?

    Thanks,

    Sig357fan
     
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  9. Colorado4Wheel

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    It's not so hard. 27gr of H4895 will cycle the action of the M1A behind a 200gr GC bullet. I just loaded 30 of them at 29gr to try out with a different lube. They are not as accurate as FMJ but I am working on it still. I have not chrono'd them. Should be in the 1800fps range. Searching for 100yd accuracy first not speed.

    Zero leading even looking through a bore scope.
     
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  10. Schrag4

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    Interesting. This is the first I've heard of this technique (yes, I'm still a noob). I'll have to look into this and weigh the pros and cons.
     
  11. BENCH

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    Well, I just learned something. Very interesting, don't shoot much lead, might be time too start.
     
  12. willie_pete

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    I've been doing it a few years now; big advantages to me are no smoke and no leading. I got involved after shooting the BBI and Bayou bullets.

    WP
     
  13. fredj338

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    CHeck out the guys on Castboolit forum. I haven't given it a try yet, but most are having best results using a high temp automtive epoxy, then baking it for a harder cure. It seems so simple. The question is size first then paint or paint first then size? This would get me to buy a 300B upper. Cheaper bulelts is always a plus.
     
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  14. sig357fan

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    Here’s a question I’d like to just throw out there for the GTR brain trust.

    Cast bullets for a high powered rifle are generally of the round nose configuration and ran at mild/mid-range velocities, if this coating is as durable as it seems (hammer test in the video), could a coated bullet of a profile similar to jacketed bullets be ran at jacketed bullet velocities?

    And another question just for my own curiosity.

    What’s the fastest any of you have ran a cast bullet with good results, minimum fouling, good accuracy and no additional hassle when putting together a load?

    Sig357fan
     
  15. stak

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    If by high temp auto epoxy you mean powder coat I have read it increases the diameter about 0.01. If you have consistent application rates you could size down for it.
     
  16. AZson

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    This is interesting considering the first time I tried to use my molded bullets it leaded my G27 barrel up so bad it made my threads disappear.
    I have access to all sorts of 2 part epoxy paints.
    What is the hammer smash test?
     
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  17. sig357fan

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    watch the video in the first post, at 0:41 in, a coated bullet is placed on a vise and smashed with a hammer, coating doesn't crack or flake off.

    sig357fan