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Good Gunpowder for 40 S&W

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by polishnightmare, Apr 12, 2011.

  1. polishnightmare

    polishnightmare

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    Wanted to see what everyones input is on a good gun powder for 40S&W. I currently use unique, but I heard others using titegroup, accurate NO.7, bullseye, etc.

    Looking to see if there is anything out there that is more accurate, cleaner, and cheaper.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. GIockGuy24

    GIockGuy24 Bring M&M's

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    I like Winchester Super Field, Ramshot Silhouette and Hodgdon HS-6. HS-6 is not the cleanest. Power Pistol works well but has a lot flash. Unique usually does well.
     

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  3. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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    Depends on what you what to do with the round. I have rounds worked up with WST, WSF, Power Pistol and even the dreaded tightgroup that I like.
    I am worried about accuracy and availability not price. Other than VV most powders are price close enough to not matter.
     
  4. I tried 700X, Clays, AA#7 and Universal before trying Unique. Unique rocks with a hard cast 170gr. LSWC from Missouri Bullet. I can get 1.5 inch groups at 25 yards out of my G22 with stock barrel (don't start with the lead bullet, Glock barrel thing, please).

    This load actually took a lot of the fun out of reloading .40 as there's no need to experiment to find something better, at least in the G22.

    All the Best,
    D. White
     
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  5. El_Ron1

    El_Ron1 AAAAAAAAGHHH!!!

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  6. MajorD

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    nothing at all wrong with unique have used a lot of it. Also bullseye or winchester 231. My formula is to get whatever I can get a deal on that has established data for all the caliibers I reload (9/40/45/38/357) go to the load manual load a mid of the road load(for example if the range is 4 grain min 6 max I load 5 even) if the guns function with it, I am done experimenting.
     
  7. fredj338

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    Yeah, Unique & lead bullets just works in just about every caliber. For better metering & slightly cleaner burning, try WSF. TG, I would use it for fertilizer before shooting it in a 40.:whistling: Longshot, PP or HS6 are also good choices for above midragne to full power loads.
     
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  8. nitesite10mm

    nitesite10mm Dog Lover

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    Unique @ 5.7-gr gives me 993-fps over my chrono with a 180-gr Berry's or X-Treme plated bullet. Crimp is .423", COAL is around 1.215", it's clean burning and above all accurate. And I feel the burn rate is far safer than Titegroup or Bullseye or Clays or AA#2.

    When factory Federal Hydra-Shok and HST 180-gr ammo advertise 1000-fps, this load is all I need as far as what I use to dupe my duty carry load.

    I use Accurate #7 for my 10mm Auto 180s but I have not tried it in the forty. Why should I bother when Unique is just right for me?
     
  9. DWARREN123

    DWARREN123 Grumpy Old Guy

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    For medium to hot loads I like Hodgdons Longshot. Good for many weights and types of bullets.
    Does not do lite/mild loads very well.
     
  10. SilentVectorX

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    I found this a while ago, you might like it. Might not tell a lot about cleanliness, but these should be accurate and pleasant to shoot.

    http://www.precisionbullets.com/PDF/maashl40sw.pdf

    EDIT: I completely forgot these were Major loads. Beware!
     
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  11. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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    You better know what you are doing if you are going to use that chart. A lot of those are major + power factor and some of them are at the blow up your gun level.
     
  12. squirreld

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    I am at 5.8 gr. gives me 988 with a 180 gr PD.
    Ditto on the crimp, my coal is 1.125.
     
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  13. fourrobert13

    fourrobert13 I am the law.

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    I've shot a lot of Bullseye and Red Dot with excellent results in 40. I'm currently playing with Power Pistol, HS-6, Green Dot, and 231.
     
  14. fredj338

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    Look at the guns they are running them in too. Many 1911 designs w/ 5" bbls. Interesting that they don't take advantage of the ability to load to a longer OAL & reduce pressures. The TG loads listed are all running the ragged edge of max. Anytime you do that w/ the 40, you are in dangerous territory.
     
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  15. SPIN2010

    SPIN2010 Searching ...

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    Another user of AA#5 here with 180gr FMJ bullets. :cool:
     
  16. skeeter7

    skeeter7 Brass Vulture

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    I use Winchester 231 because the gun shop I frequent always make sure he has some on the shelf. He says it's been really popular. Another friend of mine also uses the same powder in his 9mm's and likes it as well. I load my 40 S&W with 4.4 grains of Win 231, CCI primers, and 180 grain FMJ's.
     
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  17. ChrisJn

    ChrisJn "Old Bill"

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    Accurate #5, 7.3gr, 155gr Berrys bullet, OAL 1.125, Federal primers.
     
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  18. G36pilot

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    +1 Just worked up a reliable Titegroup/180 gr PD for my LW barreled G27 & G23. Lower powder weights worked in the G23, but not the shorter barrel G27. For the G27 I'm too close to max for my comfort. I'm guessing the fast burn/short duration combustion pulse doesn't work well in stiff springed mini Glocks. It's too quick for reliable cycling at mid pressures.

    Another issue I have with this load is the powder level is difficult to visually check unless it's significantly off. Could be my older eyes and yes I have a light shining directly into cases. (progressive loader btw)

    The above is my experience w/my pistols. One being a mini w/a stiff spring. YMMV- as Fredj mentioned earlier loads are firearm specific. TG is not my preference for my particular application.

    Working up a Unique load next.
     
  19. polishnightmare

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    Thanks guys. Of the different types of powders listed above which do you think is the cleanest shooting?