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Golden Sabre / Ultimate home defense

Discussion in 'GATE Self-Defense Forum' started by Patriot78, Jun 6, 2010.

  1. Patriot78


    May 9, 2009
    Hello again Mas, I was looking to buy some Golden Sabers in 230 grain .45 and I came across the ( New? ) Remington HD Ultimate Home Defense rounds. The store was out of Golden Sabers so I opened the box and was surprised ( confused ) that the HD looked exactly like the GS. I went ahead and bought them cause I needed some HP for my .45. I went on Remingtons website and looked at the specs. They seem to be the exact same round as the GS. Is this just some new marketing ploy, or am I missing something? They have the exact same bullet and casing as the GS; but I was wondering if they maybe have a different powder or charge? Like I said before, they have all the same specs. as the GS. I was hoping you could let us know if it's truly different or just a GS with a more P.C. name. Thanks again for all you do for us Mas.
  2. Mas Ayoob

    Mas Ayoob KoolAidAntidote Moderator

    Nov 6, 2005
    I reached out to Remington for you on this, and their official company answer follows verbatim:

    "These are the same loads, same design, same specifications.

    Golden Saber is our premium P&R duty ammunition for the Law Enforcement market. The Home Defense brand has been re-named and repackaged for the commercial market. The brand 'Home Defense' more clearly defines the product usage for the commercial shooter."


  3. Patriot78


    May 9, 2009
    Same rounds in a warm and fuzzy package? [​IMG] Thank you Mas, and thank you Remington for giving us the " People of the jury, yes my client used hollow points, BUT they were special Home Defense rounds. " argument.