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Glock 30s VS Glock 30sf...

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by MSims, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. MSims


    Jun 19, 2012
    Well I carry a Glock G30sf and wanted to sell it so i can get a G30s...

    Well i noticed that the frame is identical to the G30s and the slide is alittle slimmer but what is the advantage? 3 ounces lighter?

    But then again you cant use a G19/G23 holster cause well the frame is to wide... So the G30sf slide is the same width as the frame so whats the difference?

    G30sf equals less muzzle rise and kick versus the G30s...

    So how carrying the 2 makes a difference even if the G30s is slimmer? You still have the width of the frame... but 3 ounces lighter... Can you really feel the difference in just weight? cause carrying it will still be the same width...

    What do you guys think?
  2. Scrappy


    Mar 4, 2001
    Right you save weight. I can use my G30 holster for the 19 and 23. Its not as tight when the 19is in there but it works.
    So as a G30 owner I wont be getting a G30S for 3 ounces!

  3. GRT45

    GRT45 Transform & Win

    Jun 20, 2010
    I won't try to talk you into getting a G30S or tell you to keep your G30SF, but here is some information to help in the decision.

    Another factor about the G30S I learned from Mas Ayoob. Barrels for the G30 and G30SF, which includes third-party barrels, are not interchangeable with the G30S barrel. I was stunned by that news. Reference: g30s and g30sf, are the barrel interchangeable?

    The G30S weighs 3.55 oz less than the G30SF Gen3. When comparing the two with a fully loaded mag in both, it works out to about a 10.5% reduction in loaded weight (30.16 oz vs 33.71 oz).

    I've already made my evaluation and the G30S is out of the question to replace my G30SF due to my requirements for caliber conversions. I have two G30 Gen4 pistols on order.

    UPDATE: My review after field testing and carrying the G30S for two weeks are posted here > The New Glock 30S - Pros and Cons
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2014
  4. mrsurfboard

    mrsurfboard The Anti-Glock

    May 23, 2010
    When you carry your gun all day, 3 ozs makes a lot of difference.
  5. MSims


    Jun 19, 2012
  6. MSims


    Jun 19, 2012
    you really think 3 ozs makes a difference of the feel carrying all day?
  7. xp220


    Aug 19, 2012
    There are several threads in GlockTalk about 30S. It is a Glock 30 frame with a Glock 36 slide. Many people also tried their own hybrid 30/36 or 36/30 for frame/slide combination. Some are happy and some have problem. My own hybrid did not work reliability. Maybe 30s has some special tune.
  8. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Sep 24, 1999
    Hartford, Vermont

    I don't see how 3 ounces can make a big difference. I carry a 31-ounce (loaded) G17 on my right hip 24/7. If it weighed 34 ounces I doubt that I would notice it. :cool:
  9. MSims


    Jun 19, 2012
    Exactly my point...
  10. lyodbraun


    Jan 3, 2012
    NW Ohio
    yeah that little 3oz weight savings is nothing, I have no problems carrying my 30SF, its my EDC and I dont feel the weight at all... I know I wont be looking for a 30S, Id rather get a new G4 30 just for the new grip texture...
  11. MSims


    Jun 19, 2012
    You cant even use an aftermarket barrel from lonewolf or stormlake or even glocks G30 barrels...

    So how is the G30s better than The G30sf... After all these points... Same width when carrying and the thinner slide doesnt mean nothing cause of the width of the frame... More muzzle flip... No aftermarket barrels...
  12. sharp


    Jan 12, 2005
    G30s should have same barrel as G36 though, right?
  13. GRT45

    GRT45 Transform & Win

    Jun 20, 2010
    That is correct. Lone Wolf offers G36 45ACP barrels in standard length, extended 2 port, or threaded that would fit the G30S, but no caliber conversion barrels are offered for the G36 from Lone Wolf, StormLake, or KKM. StormLake and KKM don't offer any G36 barrels (judging only by website pick lists).
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2013
  14. no one said that a G30 is too heavy but 3oz. DOES make a difference when carrying all day...does it make enough of a difference for you to pick one over another???...that is a choice YOU have to make...

    This is the first I had read about the barrels being different (I suspect the outside diameter may be thinner as it is a purpose built .45ACP and not a slide engineered for 10mm downsized for .45ACP if it is...)

    I would have to hold the two side by side and even shoot them together (which I don't see happening for me) to make the best choice for me but I suspect I won't go wrong with either...people have been carrying conversions for years...

  15. 8ptbuk


    May 3, 2009
    Somebody posted that a 36 barrel wouldn't take some brands of night sights (front) do to clearance problems . Wonder if G30s would be the same ???
  16. G26S239

    G26S239 NRA Patron

    Mar 17, 2008
    KKM makes 36 barrels.
  17. ronin.45


    Apr 24, 2008
    Agreed. Weight is a major concern for a concealed carry gun. The slimmer profile would also be a little nicer to conceal. As for being able to use holsters from other guns, I buy holsters built for my carry guns. I also don't buy a gun based on what I can turn it into. If I want a different caliber I'll buy a different gun.
  18. MSims


    Jun 19, 2012
    Point is Ronin that millions of people have the G30sf and that carry why would they go with the G30s... Cause the only reason its 3 ounces lighter... I bet nobody can tell the difference... It still conceals the same width... They should of at least Slimmed a bit of the frame too and well they had enough room to slim it down to accept the double stack... They obviously went the lazy route... All in all i see no point and i wanted the G30s cause it was slimmer... no its not slimmer cause in reality you are carrying the same frame width on your waist... So the slide is what 7 mm thinner... And glock said its the ultimate conceal package... Yes if the slimmed down the FRAME too =)
  19. D4RWlN


    Nov 5, 2005
    Southeastern, AL
    I highly doubt that. I bet many will notice it if using a holster that was molded for the 30s. If you carry a pistol IWB all day, everyday, everywhere its legal to, you will always notice a reduction in weight or thickness IWB. Even more so if you are active with your CCW(working, excercising, etc.) Its like going from a double stack 9 to a single stack. When you look at the difference in thickness on paper it looks minor but once you switch it feels huge. Since they only thinned the slide I'm sure it won't be as drastic but you are still losing some thickness. I'm sure many with holsters made for it will notice a difference. Also 3.55 is close to a 1/4 pound. Whether someone thinks the switch is worth it to them is a personal thing but I do think it will be a noticeable difference if you carry a lot IWB.

    If someone didn't have a g30 in some favor or want to use conversions I think it makes sense to get the 30s.

    So they basically thinned the slide down to a g36. Now you think they should thin the frame? They did. It's called a G36! If you want them to thin it but maintain a double stack mag and not weaken the grip of the pistol too much they would probably have to switch to thinner metal mags.
  20. MattyIce


    Jan 17, 2012
    Alpharetta, GA
    I think the market for the Glock 30S is pretty easy to understand. If you already have a Glock 30, do not purchase a 30S. If you do not already have a Glock 30, then the 30S is a great option in .45 ACP carry pistols.