close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

Welcome to Glock Talk

Why should YOU join our Glock forum?

  • Converse with other Glock Enthusiasts
  • Learn about the latest hunting products
  • Becoming a member is FREE and EASY

If you consider yourself a beginner or an avid shooter, the Glock Talk community is your place to discuss self defense, concealed carry, reloading, target shooting, and all things Glock.

Glock 21 = worst Glock, according to Larry Vickers...

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by mr00jimbo, Jan 13, 2013.

  1. Old news. But why say that? Mine (gen 3 21SF) has been dead reliable in the 500 rounds or so I've put through it. Easy to shoot, etc.
    I don't know what his deal was, but I have yet to see any dissatisfied 21 owners, except for the grip. :rofl:

    Your thoughts?
     

  2. skew12

    skew12

    165
    0
    Sep 13, 2012
    The worst glock is still better than a lot of other guns.
     
  3. nipperwolf

    nipperwolf

    3,075
    29
    Oct 3, 2002
    Thread Fail without a link. :upeyes:
     
  4. mrsurfboard

    mrsurfboard The Anti-Glock

    4,395
    47
    May 23, 2010
    NJ
    In the world of 45acp, there are lots of great choices other then Glock.
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2013
  5. mrsurfboard

    mrsurfboard The Anti-Glock

    4,395
    47
    May 23, 2010
    NJ
    Yeah maybe 10 years ago, now, not so much.
     
  6. awpk03s

    awpk03s

    1,472
    0
    Apr 1, 2007
    Ohio
    I love my Gen4 21. How's it the 'worst Glock'? My pistol is reliable, accurate, fits my hand great, yada yada yada.
     
  7. HAMMERHEAD

    HAMMERHEAD

    3,445
    18
    Dec 20, 2002
    Minnesota
    Maybe he has an axe to grind with Glocks like Dean Spier.
     
  8. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

    36,121
    479
    Nov 24, 2005
    Troy
    The farther you stray from the G17...............:whistling:
     
  9. B_RAD

    B_RAD

    1,158
    19
    Jan 2, 2008
    NW AR
    We all (most of us at least do) know Larry Vickers resume. When he says something I believe it. However, he had a part in the development of the HK45C IIRC. So, when it comes to his opinion on polymer .45 I think he's always going to favor the HK over the G21. Most folks that I know that have had or at least fired both agree w/him. That doesn't mean the G21 is trash, just means he believes there are better options out there.


    My personal opinion, which means nothing in the real world, is that the best Glock is the G19 or the G17. The only reason I waste my time by giving my opinion is becuase I'm guessing that one reason Mr. Vickers may have said the G21 is the worst is due to the Glock being designed around the 9mm. Some feel that the Glock is best in the 9mm platform.

    Just my $0.02
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2013
  10. FLIPPER 348

    FLIPPER 348 Happy Member

    22,934
    3,110
    Oct 7, 2000
    Bend Oregon


    Who cares what that wind-bag Vickers says.
     
  11. Paid spokes-pukes rarely offer an objective view of things.
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2013
  12. crazymoose

    crazymoose Nonentity

    4,458
    65
    Feb 9, 2005
    He's simply stating that he's seen a higher ratio of problem guns to good guns than in other models. I have no reason to disbelieve him, given how some large departments have dumped the 21. Having said that, I have a Gen4 21 that I fully intend to keep and keep shooting.

    And while he did consult for H&K on the HK45 (along with Hackathorn), he was the first to criticize the production model when it came out. H&K had made some last-minute changes to the production model, and he wasn't happy. If memory serves, he disliked the Spider Man grip of the full size guns (both pre-production models have the more conventional grips of the 45C), and the triggers on the production models were considerably worse than the triggers on the pre-production guns.
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2013
  13. Kozel

    Kozel

    3,031
    2
    Jan 16, 2007
    46.58N 121.75W
    I have one of oldest G21s there is. Bought shortly after they were available to buy. All these years it did not jammed once. I cannot even say that about my old HK USP! It jammed once on Russian steel cased ammo.
     
  14. Sharky7

    Sharky7 Boomshakalaka

    3,199
    17
    Feb 21, 2009
    My Glock 21 is 100% reliable. We have had a few guys have issues though with their tac lights. Biggest issue with the Glock 21 to me is that it has the ergonomics of a 2X4.
     
  15. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  16. byf43

    byf43 NRA Life Member

    11,734
    301
    Apr 13, 2006
    Southern Maryland
    I have NO complaints about my G21!!!!!!

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Diesel McBadass

    Diesel McBadass Tactically Epic

    10,221
    668
    Apr 15, 2011
    Dover NH
    vickers has no ax to grind with glock, he said he loves the g1/19 and considers them the finest 9mms made.
     
  18. T-Rod45

    T-Rod45 Loves The Glock

    1,101
    3
    Apr 28, 2010
    CT
    My Gen3 21SF was my first Glock, and my favorite, until I picked up a Gen4 23... It's such a soft shooter, even with hotter loads, and I've had zero issues in 1300+ rounds. It's been retired to the safe for the past 2 years, as I've been shooting more 9/40, but I can't say I'll ever get rid of it. For a full size .45, I can't find a damn thing wrong with it...
     
  19. bac1023

    bac1023

    102,921
    2,899
    Sep 26, 2004
    PA
    My thought is that this thread should be in General Glocking where it belongs.

    Not here...