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Glock 21 magazine

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by cebuboy, Oct 3, 2004.


  1. cebuboy

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    hi bogs, are the mags for the glock 21 available there in manila? if they are, please let me know where to get them. just blasted my mag out this afternoon. it still works, just want a new one for peace of mind, i only have one left. i already knew about the risk of KB, i've seen the brass bulge and yet i kept on going. never thought that it would happen to me. just learned my lesson the hard way. btw, any bogs there with g21?
     

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  2. 9MX

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    glockideeglock has a g21c (he used it today). last gunshow, my mountaineering buddy from davao requested me to look for a g21 mag. found a 10 rounder at final option's booth, P4.5k;P

    i'm just not sure if there are new stocks at MCS and at what price.

    fyi, gunshow II is on nov. 8, manila nga lang;e
     

  3. cebuboy

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    hi 9mx, thanks for the info. for P4.5k, it's too much. i think its time to bugger someone in the states again:)
     
  4. doctabako

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    That's exactly how my case looked like when my HK USP45 KB'd. Glad you're okay. Good thing in your case it was only the mag that got damaged. My USP's already out of commision and is serving as a glorified paper weight.;g Bought my G21 mags which I use for my glock 30 (when I was still using it to compete in Standard) before at our "favorite" Nashe for only 2,500 each. In twin pines at that time it was already at 3,500, but that was last year. Don't know if they're still available.
     
  5. Paltog

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    Try Final Option at Virra Mall, Greenhills...I saw a couple of G21 mags about 2 weeks ago...:)
     
  6. Glockideeglock

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    cebuboy,

    sorry to hear about your incident.

    the cheapest g21 mags are at nashe at makati cinema square (mcs). i was there 2 weeks ago and they were at P2.5k a piece...yup P2.5k a piece.

    last gunshow, i got a g21 mag from them for only P2k.

    when you come to manila, why don't you also check final option which is also at mcs-basement level. this store carries a lot of glock parts and accessories.

    there are also a couple of other gun-related stores at the basement level of mcs.

    TIP#1: try to ask for a discount from the salespeople of these stores and they'll most probably give it to you.

    Tip#2: the jethro outlet at mcs is selling scherer +2 mag extensions for g21 magazines. i'd get those as well

    good luck and i hope you get what you want.
     
  7. Glockideeglock

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    cebuboy,

    i'm just curious, what was the brand and specs of .45ACP ammo in the pic you posted...i wanna be careful too. thanks.

    Glokideeglock:)
     
  8. cebuboy

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    the headstamp on the cases is "SB" sellier-bellot i think? loaded it with 4.6 grains n320 and 230 grain cast bullet.

    after firing some 20+ rounds last saturday, i checked the cases. the sb cases bulged in the 6:00 position. the wcc and federal had only a slight bulge and the rpa cases did not show any problems. so i immediately stopped, knowing that this big bulge on the brass is a sure sign for KB. on the next day, maybe because i've got nothing better to do, I shot some 30+ rounds again, what the heck, the .45 acp is a low pressure round plus with light loads, what could possibly go wrong. I've seen people load them up till the necks split. So, bang bang bang.... boom! saw flames jet out from the sides and trigger area and the mag just blasted away. i think i'm still lucky, still got my fingers, the gun looks and shoots fine and i still got the mag to work, looks a bit busted though with some shreded plastic:) thinking of the incident, i'm beginning to ask myself am i stupid or what? i clearly know what was going to happen and yet i still continued on doing it. anyway, i'm just grateful that i got away with it. i just feel sorry for the gun, its still brand new(got it last year) and it just fired some 300+ rounds.
     
  9. cebuboy

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    hi guys, thanks for the info. maybe if i have the time, will drop by the next gunshow:) i cant find mags for the g21 here in cebu, all i can find are for 9mm and .40. and one more thing, is it legal for a person from the states to bring in them magazines? lonewolfdist.com are selling them for $20 bucks.


    one more pic of the brass...
     
  10. Glockideeglock

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    cebuboy,

    thanks for the info and pic. i have yet to order gun-related stuff directly from the US so i can't really help you with your latest inquiry. perhaps the others bogs can help answer your question.

    if you use reloads, always check the brass you reuse. some bogs advise that you can check the "quality" of your freshly reloaded ammo by inserting it in the breech of your barrel (remove the barrel from the gun first!) insert each round and see if it goes in completely.

    in general if yes, then ok pay yun, if not, then don't use it...don't risk another kb. also, before doing this, you can check each round visually (check for bulges, etc...).

    i would also make a note of # of times i've reused the brass. invest in plastic ammo boxes and you can print some sort of monitor sheet and note the number of times you'vé reused the brass. these boxes also protect your ammo.

    Glockideeglock
     
  11. batangueno

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    After seeing those cases you should have already stop. Pero curious ako sa load mo of 4.6gr N320 mababa na yun for a 230 gr head, di ba. Are you sure that you're dropping the correct amount of powder, you could also check your crimp (might be too tight or too loose). Anyway, glad to hear you're ok. Ingat lang sa pag-reload. :)
     
  12. mc_oliver

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    Not sure about VV factory loads for the 230gr 45cal. But 4.6gr of N320 seems too high. Comparing my 40 loads with 200gr, close to major na yung 3.6 (haven't chronoed yet the new 3.9gr load). What's the OAL ng loads mo and what's the PF?

    From the pics, those are very over pressure rounds. Ingat dre. ;)
     
  13. cebuboy

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    hi guys,

    i knew what i was doing and what was going to happen, and now i know that it really could happen.

    mc_o,

    i have them reloaded by our clubs reloader, will measure th oal. that load will shoot the 230gr. bullet to about 800fps. basing on our observation, the problem is the crappy brass.

    batangueno,

    hehe i did stop, but i got curious, learned it the hard way:)

    Glockideeglock,

    thanks for the info, btw how many times can the brass be reloaded? and what other brands are ok? rpa seems fine.
     
  14. mc_oliver

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    Yaiks! A rough calculation on your PF yields 184. Constantly going this high on a glock barrel (and cast bullet) and you really need to be really careful with your brass. ;P Any particular reason why you need this much PF?
     
  15. batangueno

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    45 seems to have a a high PF by looking at the VV load book. Following is the load specs for 45 using 230gr bullet.

    230 FMJ-RN 1.260in OAL N320 Minimum 4.9grs 784fps Maximum 5.2grs 850fps

    Considering that you are using lead dapat ok lang yung 4.6grs. Meron ka pa ba natirang cartridges from the same batch, pa pull mo kaya tapos weigh nila ulit yung powder.
     
  16. jerrytrini

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    Those indicate high pressures. I have been reloading since 1986, and have experienced several high pressured loads. I was shooting a Ruger P85, the barrel just bulged out and I had to get a new barrel. Anyway, double check your powder measure, bullet seating depth and crimp. BTW, be careful out there.
     
  17. cebuboy

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    hi mc_o,

    tried the same load with rpa brass with no problems. well, that load shoots nice and is accurate with my glock.

    hi batangueno,

    4.6gr is light for .45, or so i thought. forgot to measure them today. btw at first, some of em did not feed properly, the reloader just seated the bullets a bit deeper and then the case failure.

    hi jerry,

    thanks for the advice, still new to reloading:) i only shot .22s before, no pulot ng brass and reloads.
     
  18. Glockideeglock

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    first of all, i'm no expert in reloading or shooting for that matter.

    but personally, i've used the brass that armscor sells since day 1. after some time, when i sort of learned my way around, i started buying those "önce fired brass" from the boys in armscor.

    i reuse these four to five times.

    before and after reloading, i always check for bulges and all those other nasty things that can cause a kb.

    if you really want the branded/imported ones, you can go to twin pines, true weight, strong hand, & jethro. these stores sell the stuff.

    i've used the rpa "once fired" brass. no problemo so far. they claim na matibay daw...


    Glockideeglock:)
     
  19. cebuboy

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    thanks for the info, in my experience, the rpa seems the strongest. the only problem is the supply, many shooters are looking for that brass.
     
  20. mbclubph

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    how much yung new rpa na basyo for 45acp?


    i have around 2 to 3k pcs. bought by my dad wayback 89 or 90