Well finally got back in town for a week and was wanting to make my first loads. I wanted to run by everyone to make sure that I got this right or I am going in the right direction. Berry's RN 115 gr--use low mid to low charges for plated Hp38--Hogdon's sais to start at 4.7 for SPR GDHP and Lyman sais to start at 3.5 for JHP OAL set at 1.103--close enough to 1.100--will be for a glock 17 Crimp is at .378, goes in correct in the case gage and barrell So I guess make 10 at 4.7 and then 10 more at 4.9 or should I start at around 4 gr and work up? What am I not seeing or thinking of correctly when looking at both Lyman's and Hogdon's information? I used Lyman's 49th page 341 and Hogdon's online data. Also when I measured some blazer and winchester 115's they were coming in around 1.153 to 1.155, is 1.100 too short and also how close do I need to stay to the OAL as in 1.100?<!-- google_ad_section_end --> <!-- / message --> Wanna kill these ads? We can help!