I went for the second time to the range with my new Gen 4 yesterday. This time I took my wife and oldest daughter who would be shooting a pistol for the very first time. We shot about 100 rds and both of them really enjoyed shooting the gun! There were no FTF's/FTE's and the gun once again seemed to perform flawlessly except for the occasional brass to the head, chest or shoulder. Here's MY deal on that: It really doesn't bother me at all that a few rounds bounce off the top of my head as long as I don't have any FTF's or FTE's. I barely even notice. Since I filmed the 2 ladies shooting, I could see on the video that the brass seems to be ejecting straight up (at times) about a foot over the shooter's head and landing either on top of their head, shoulder, or flying over them completely. It is more of a lob so it is not something that could ever injure anybody. As long as we are not getting any other problems, I am happy with the gun. I have been on the range and seen other guns doing the same thing so I don't think it is exclusive to the Glock 19 necessarily and agree with another poster that way too much attention is brought to it on this board. For fun, I ordered a TLR-4 this weekend and will be interested to see how the gun performs with it attached. I will post those results in about a week. Thanks!!